How to get to heaven when you die

deornie · Mar 5, 2005

Dunno about you Folks but I think that it is NOT about Heaven and even NOT about being "saved"... This is all about LOVE. If you live with LOVE in your heart and if you treat others according to LOVE(not because you want to get to heaven or be "saved")... then you will please the Lord. Too many people just study the Bible and attend church but in their hearts EVEY DAY not just on special occacions they dont live according to love... This is what is sad...

This is why I belive that if you are a Catholic or Lutheran or whatever Christian confession... and even if you are NON Christian but you live your life according to LOVE and treat others as brothers and sisters, THEN you gonna dwell with God when you die... but if you spend your life trying to get to heaven of get "saved" then you fail if you have no love.... Because God is love!!!!

deornie

revelations12_12 · Mar 5, 2005

Hi brooks how's it going today?

revelations12_12 · Mar 5, 2005

deornie said:
Dunno about you Folks but I think that it is NOT about Heaven and even NOT about being "saved"... This is all about LOVE. If you live with LOVE in your heart and if you treat others according to LOVE(not because you want to get to heaven or be "saved")... then you will please the Lord. Too many people just study the Bible and attend church but in their hearts EVEY DAY not just on special occacions they dont live according to love... This is what is sad...

This is why I belive that if you are a Catholic or Lutheran or whatever Christian confession... and even if you are NON Christian but you live your life according to LOVE and treat others as brothers and sisters, THEN you gonna dwell with God when you die... but if you spend your life trying to get to heaven of get "saved" then you fail if you have no love.... Because God is love!!!!

deornie

If you were my neighbor I would have asked you to marry me about 100 times by now Not only are you beautiful, you are holding a long sword. If you play Dungeons and dragons too don't tell me because I would not sleep for a week!!

deornie · Mar 5, 2005

revelations12_12 said:
If you were my neighbor I would have asked you to marry me about 100 times by now Not only are you beautiful, you are holding a long sword. If you play Dungeons and dragons too don't tell me because I would not sleep for a week!!

geez you make me blush and I dont play Dungeons and dragons, I play Age of Empires

HotRhymez · Mar 5, 2005

We need more threads like this...explaining the basics of Christianity....some people even have trouble understanding some of it. (Like me).

revelations12_12 · Mar 5, 2005

SlimShadyJB said:
We need more threads like this...explaining the basics of Christianity....some people even have trouble understanding some of it. (Like me).

This is exactly how I was 6 months ago when I found Jesus, no one would answer my questions and no Christains I met had any biblicle knowledge whatsoever. So I went about studying every thing I could find.

My knowledge is far from complete but I now have the ability and notes to find the answers to ALMOST any legitimate questions on bible scholor.

My point being, I am here to help

XFRODOBAGGINSX · Mar 5, 2005

deornie said:
Dunno about you Folks but I think that it is NOT about Heaven and even NOT about being "saved"... This is all about LOVE. If you live with LOVE in your heart and if you treat others according to LOVE(not because you want to get to heaven or be "saved")... then you will please the Lord. Too many people just study the Bible and attend church but in their hearts EVEY DAY not just on special occacions they dont live according to love... This is what is sad...

This is why I belive that if you are a Catholic or Lutheran or whatever Christian confession... and even if you are NON Christian but you live your life according to LOVE and treat others as brothers and sisters, THEN you gonna dwell with God when you die... but if you spend your life trying to get to heaven of get "saved" then you fail if you have no love.... Because God is love!!!!

Dear friend,

We cannot go by our feelings here. The bible is clear that we cannot be good to get to heaven.

The bible says Ro 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
deornie

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

This verse says that it is NOT of works. If God is going to judge you, and He wrote this book to tell you how He is going to judge you, don't you think that you had better listen to what He says? He said that the only way to heaven was through Jesus, not by being good. By saying that God will accept you anyway is to call God a liar.

Chrysalis Kat · Mar 5, 2005

I don't care much about Heaven after I die because I'll be dead. In the meantime, I'll concern myself with creating Heaven on earth while I'm here.

revelations12_12 · Mar 5, 2005

Chrysalis Kat said:
I don't care much about Heaven after I die because I'll be dead. In the meantime, I'll concern myself with creating Heaven on earth while I'm here.

your bio lists other church... what is other in your case?

Scottish Joy · Mar 5, 2005

I don't care much about Heaven after I die because I'll be dead. In the meantime, I'll concern myself with creating Heaven on earth while I'm here.

I don't care that much about this life while I'm here, because soon I'll be dead. So while I'm here I'll concern myself with what's really going to last forever.

Your post made me smile, Kat. I'm curious too- what other church are you affiliated with?

Scottish Joy · Mar 5, 2005

Hey Brooks, I've got a favor to ask ya. You've read the Bible verses we've posted on our position & drawn your conclusions about what we believe. Would you please post some verses of your own for us? I don't know about the rest of y'all, but I'm no expert on the Baha'i faith, and I'd appreciate seeing firsthand where your decisions are coming from.

I'd really 'preciate it.
Joy

I_are_sceptical · Mar 6, 2005

Scottish Joy said:
You've read the Bible verses we've posted on our position & drawn your conclusions about what we believe.

I haven't come to any conclusions about what Christians believe. What they say confuses me. I have questions but no-one seems to want to answer them. That's why I joined CF - to find someone willing to answer my questions. So far all I've gotten is lengthy sermons that are in no way related to anything I want to know.

psalms 91 · Mar 6, 2005

deornie · Mar 6, 2005

XFRODOBAGGINSX said:
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

This verse says that it is NOT of works. If God is going to judge you, and He wrote this book to tell you how He is going to judge you, don't you think that you had better listen to what He says? He said that the only way to heaven was through Jesus, not by being good. By saying that God will accept you anyway is to call God a liar.

It has nothing to do with being "good" it has nothing to do with "works" BUT with WHAT you are in your heart, what is your attitude to the world and other people. It does not help to pray and read the Bible and wear a T-shirt that says "JESUS"... the only way to show that you really have Jesus in your heart is LIVE ACCORDING TO LOVE! Because if you look at the life of Jesus it IS love. And you can every day declare that you belong to Jesus , but if you have no LOVE you have nothing.

And it is not up to US to judge if you are 'saved' or not, only the ONE who can see ALL knows

revelations12_12 · Mar 6, 2005

I_are_sceptical said:
I haven't come to any conclusions about what Christians believe. What they say confuses me. I have questions but no-one seems to want to answer them. That's why I joined CF - to find someone willing to answer my questions. So far all I've gotten is lengthy sermons that are in no way related to anything I want to know.

I answered all your questions except the ones you asked me about the baha'i'allah faith, you continue to ask why should I not believe Baha'i.

Well you refuse to quote any of his works and no Christains here have studied that faith. I would suggest to get the questions about your faith answered, you would need to find someone who is familiar with it.

Starr SDA Living Word · Mar 6, 2005

believe in jesus and what he died for,"all humans"and repent , and u will recieve eternal life in heaven.

god bless all!

XFRODOBAGGINSX · Mar 6, 2005

When the bible says "repent" it means to turn away. Turn away from what? Our sins and reliance on ourselves and turn to Jesus Christ to save you, because you cannot save yourself. "Believe" means to put your trust in...in this case, it's Jesus Christ for salvation.

Snow Angel · Mar 6, 2005

''Little Humor"

Daughter of His · Mar 6, 2005

No long sermon.

We are all created eternal, spiritual beings and have a choice as to where we will spend all of eternity which will make this life seem like a vapor.

God sent His only Son, Christ Jesus, to die FOR US to make a way for us to spend eternity with Him. The other choice, hell is sulfer and brimstone burning and no relief. Heaven is described in Revelation, beauty beyond our imagination possibilities.

I_are_sceptical · Mar 6, 2005

revelations12_12 said:
I answered all your questions except the ones you asked me about the baha'i'allah faith

I disagree. You have not.

post 23
If you were Jewish, living 1900 years ago, and someone said to you "Pay no attention to what Jesus or His followers say, just trust what I tell you, He is not the Messiah. Don't follow Him, stick with the true Faith, which is Judaism." Would that be good advice or bad advice? If you listened to that person and rejected Jesus, where would you be spending eternity?

Are Christians preaching peace?

Please tell me which book, chapter, and verse says that someone 1800 years after Jesus who lives in Persia and calls Himself the "Glory of God" is one of the false Christs we are warned about. If there is no such verse in the Bible, then why would I believe you have correctly interpreted the warnings about false prophets and false Christs when you say my religion is included in those warnings?

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Here is an exchange in which you addressed the question - sort of - but I didn't ask about Bible prophecy, so I think you missed the point. Therefore, I consider the question to remain unanswered.

posts 17 and 22
IAS:
So perhaps God has sent a new Revelation and I should be careful not to reject it, right?

revelations12_12:
Well it says in the bible what signs will preclude the end times when Jesus will come again, so no, you should not reject it.

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And here you may or may not have been responding to a question I asked someone else. I'm not sure.

post 27 IAS:
Here's a question I have asked several Christians over the years. Not one of them has answered it so far. Was Moses resurrected? Does that prove the Old Testament is not, and never was, the Word of God?

post 44 revelations12_12
Moses in this argument seems irrelevant

you continue to ask why should I not believe Baha'i.

My questions have nothing to do with you believing in the Baha'i Faith. My questions are about why I should stop believing in it.

I would suggest to get the questions about your faith answered,

My questions are not about the Baha'i Faith, they are about why Christians tell me to become a Christian.

Daughter of His said:
No long sermon.

We are all created eternal, spiritual beings and have a choice as to where we will spend all of eternity which will make this life seem like a vapor.

God sent His only Son, Christ Jesus, to die FOR US to make a way for us to spend eternity with Him. The other choice, hell is sulfer and brimstone burning and no relief. Heaven is described in Revelation, beauty beyond our imagination possibilities.

Thank you, but that doesn't answer any of the questions I have.

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