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Seems almost a form of spiritual malpractice to entertain as legitimate a 16-year old getting "spiritually" married. Is Isaiahkiki ready to protect and provide for his "spiritually-wed" wife? Does he have any concept of the level of sacrifice that Jesus calls for a husband to make? The keeping of a marriage covenant is hard enough for adults.
Much of this thread just seems so unhinged from real life.
So because I'm 16 you just assume I'm unfit to be a husband? See that's what's kind of messed about some people. I have my license I have my own car I have a job just like everyone who's the legal age has, and I have more then what a lot of people who are older then me have. The only thing I don't have is the age..
So because I'm 16 you just assume I'm unfit to be a husband? See that's what's kind of messed about some people. I have my license I have my own car I have a job just like everyone who's the legal age has, and I have more then what a lot of people who are older then me have. The only thing I don't have is the age. So please for your own sake don't judge people based off their age. Please.
So because I'm 16 you just assume I'm unfit to be a husband? See that's what's kind of messed about some people. I have my license I have my own car I have a job just like everyone who's the legal age has, and I have more then what a lot of people who are older then me have. The only thing I don't have is the age. So please for your own sake don't judge people based off their age. Please.
When u get to 18, you will have the freedom to get married if you still want to. For now, enjoy your childhood in obedience to your parents, and growing in wisdom. God bless
So because I'm 16 you just assume I'm unfit to be a husband? See that's what's kind of messed about some people. I have my license I have my own car I have a job just like everyone who's the legal age has, and I have more then what a lot of people who are older then me have. The only thing I don't have is the age. So please for your own sake don't judge people based off their age. Please.
Hi,
I want to know how to get married in the eyes of god. If its possible I don't want a ceremony included. Please I need straight forward answers
Take a poll: ask any man who has stepped up to the God-given responsibilities of life - i.e. no Peter Pans - and ask them if getting married at the age of 16 is a fine idea. I raised three boys into men and I had enough respect for them, even when they were 16, to speak to them as men . I'll do the same for you, though it seems you are not used to it. Yes, you are unfit to be a husband, not because you are a bad kid, but because you are green. Did you buy your car?
Do you pay for auto and life insurance? (You'll need life insurance to protect your young wife in case you die.) Do you pay for your own cell phone? Ready to comfort a grieving wife through the death of a child or parent? Ready to say no to some hot chic that comes on to you when your on business out of town? (Remember if you can't keep your fly zipped before you're married, it most likely means it will be difficult after.) Ready to lead your wife in her spiritual development as a Godly woman? (At this point you have slept with God's daughter; not the best start to leading in Godliness.) Ready to be gentle even when your bride gets angry and says ugly stuff to you? Ready to humbly ask forgiveness when you get angry and say ugly stuff to your wife? Ready to hold a sick baby through the night to give your wife some peaceful sleep?
Of course, at 16 you most likely think you're a special case and old farts like me have got nothing to offer. Save this post and read it again in 10 years and then decide how mistaken you are.
They can't help it. I'm not excusing them for it, but they know no other way. And they will fight to make sure you don't get some break that they never got. John 16:2 comes to mind.
In God's Law, there is no "legal age" to do what God ordained for us to do, way back in the garden of Eden.
The problem is, people are not looking to God's Law for direction. They have abandoned that. They are looking to Caesar's legalities -- his worldly benefits package. For the most part, they remain blissfully unaware of the duties attached to that package, until they come due... So it's fear that keeps them in line.
I've let this thread run out a bit after my initial response to your OP, to see if there was any interest in sojourning in true liberty with the King, where his yoke is easy and his burden is light. It's a rare bird who really wants to know the truth and then is actually willing to DO what is required to walk in that truth.
I have facilitated marriages where there are no Caesarian legalities, where the King of kings gets all the glory. Folks mostly can't get past their fear conditioning to realize that there is indeed a better way.
From what little you've posted in this limited medium here, I believe you're well-intentioned and not a sluggard. So I will leave you with some food for thought. If you want to talk this up more, then either do so here, or you can pm me.
If you look to Caesar for legal permission to do what God has already said is Lawful, then you will indeed render to Caesar, as you have acknowledged him as your authority. IOW, Caesar takes what God says is Lawful, makes it illegal, unless, of course, you bribe him, then he will "permit" you. Definition of license is from licentious = morally unrestrained; lascivious.
Those reading this are unaware that Caesar says marriage is illegal! That's right; if you marry without Caesar's permission, you are breaking Caesar's rules. However, if you have not subjected yourself to Caesar's authority, i.e. his codes, rules, ordinances, then you are foreign to his jurisdcition, an ambassador with "diplomatic immunity."
I'll leave you with one real world illustration. As one who has claimed the benefits package of the forum State as its "citizen," if you seek Caesars permit/license to marry, then he assumes ownership over the product of your union i.e. your as-yet unborn offspring! That's why CPS (Child Protective Services) can legally (never Lawfully) enter your house and seize "your" children at gunpoint while you're on the floor screaming about your so-called Caesarian rights.
I have three unpapered offspring (no birth cert's, no passports, etc.). Thus CPS has no warrant (and cannot obtain one) as long as I remain foreign to Caesar's jurisdiction. So, much of my walk involves avoiding the enemy's incessant scams that would deceive me into stepping into Caesar's venue and thus his jurisdiction. It can be done!
The very authority you seem to be so much trying to escape, Christ placed himself under to the point of dying
God is sovereign over Caesar and gives authority to Caesar...
Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. For because of this you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing. Pay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed. (Romans 13:1-7 ESV)
I think you need to be sharing with a variety of Jesus people as your spiritual family . . . with ones who help you and her get real with God and learn how to love any and all people >1) I want to know how I can get married through the eyes of god without going through legal process just me and my girlfriend if possible.
I think if you're concerned about that, then you are not into love like you need to be. You need to stop what is wrong and get "busier" with what is right. So . . . now . . . while you can be busy with if you might go to hell, you are not ready to be deciding that you "should" get married unofficially or not. Get more real with God so you are doing things right and sharing with different good example Christian people, then see how you two see things in prayer and peace.2) I know this isn't in the right place but since you're here you might know. I committed fornication and I'm pretty sure that that is a mortal sin, but am I doomed for hell?
There is no such requirement or teaching found in the word of God. In fact, Scripture is replete with warnings to trust no man. Indeed, we should not trust any man including ourselves. The Holy Bible says,... I was taught you have to follow the laws of man unless they interfere with Gods laws.
That’s true ONLY if you have submitted to that ungodly authority, rather than to Christ (which tragically is precisely the case today, where most folks are very busy ignorantly rendering unto Caesar what is rightfully due Christ). This is why you have Caesar's jack booted government thugs banging down your castle door, to “disappear” you off to “indefinite detention” (if not shoot you instead).So in other words if your laws say you have to get married a certain way for it to be official... then you have to do it that way.
What a blatant contradiction! Double-mindedness. Serving two masters. So why in the world would any born again believer have ANYTHING to do with such heathen nonsense?...really Christian people do well with keeping laws about legally certifying their marriages. But we understand well that law does not make us married.
The Holy Bible tells us to let all things be established in the mouth of two or three witnesses. THIS is why we have a “wedding” with a “reception” with lots of people. Not because it’s a “free food and booze” day, but because each attendee is a WITNESS to the promises made by the bride and bridegroom. Every attendee comes to the wedding aware of his own responsibility to the community to HELP this newly married couple in future times if and when they hit rough bumps (and we all hit rough bumps sooner or later). It’s a community network of support for the body of Christ.But being publicly recorded is our testimony. And we are sharing with the public that we are married.
You don’t need any “pastor.” The pastoral calling is merely that -- a calling, one of many. It’s not a title. I have a prophetic calling, but my brothers and sisters do not call me by the label of “Prophet John.”But you are not required to have a public "show" of "taking vows", but you can simply be pronounced by a pastor whom you both trust and admire and who is helping you obviously to get more real with God
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