How to become a Calvinist in 5 easy steps

[JAL]

Please choose A or B:
...(1) You have stopped beating animals.
...(2) You have not stopped beating animals.

Please provide a full list of options. Those two possibilities are not exhaustive.

And if you feel I omitted options in my question to you, please show me what I missed.

 

[JAL]

Ah. There it is. I missed it somehow, and it is a shame, since it is such low-hanging fruit!

Your claim here is mere assertion, just like your libertarian freewill claims concerning humans.

No. Assertion would be lack of a reason. Do angels fill up at the gas pump? What fuels their motion?

 

[Clare73]

(Yawn). Still waiting for one plausible exception to the rule of conscience. Oh that's right - you don't know of any.

The "rule of conscience" is your idea.
Scripture's idea is that the law of God rules over conscience.

 

[JAL]

It's not murder when God commands it, it's obedience.

So how did they know the Voice was from God?

 

[JAL]

The "rule of conscience" is your idea.
Scripture's idea is that the law of God rules over conscience.

Funny you live by "my idea" from moment to moment, since you can't anecdote even one single scenario in your life contrary to it.

 

[Clare73]

@Clare73,

Please address 2436.

When you answer post #2437.

 

[JAL]

When you answer post #2437.

Which I did at 2441.

 

[Clare73]

Please provide a full list of options. Those two possibilities are not exhaustive.

And if you feel I omitted options in my question to you, please show me what I missed.

Does not answer my question.

 

[John Mullally]

Then, you agree with JAL that God is less than omnipotent, that he too is subject to causes beyond his control and outside of his own making.

God can be omni-potent without coercing our every action - durrr! Just because God worked to insure that Pharoah opposed Moses and Christ was crucified, does not mean He desires to govern our every decision. If our every action is scripted before hand (as Calvin states), how does it make sense that God judges us for doing that which is out of our control? Again, God does not predestine any men to eternal torment, as Calvin states, as that contradicts 1 Timothy 2:4.

 

[Clare73]

So how did they know the Voice was from God?

I know it because Scripture says it was.

You'll have to ask them how they knew it.

 

[JAL]

Does not answer my question.

For example, I'm not married, that should have been one of the options. Why won't you supply the relevant options?

And the same applies to me. If you feel I failed to supply relevant options, please tell me what I missed.

 

[Clare73]

Funny you live by "my idea" from moment to moment, since you can't anecdote even one single scenario in your life contrary to it.

Question?

 

[Mark Quayle]

Oversimplified. Life besets us with millions of options daily. I always have to go with the one I feel most certain about at the moment of a pressing decision.

Funny, how you would choose that option each time!

 

[Clare73]

Which I did at 2441.

Which I answered at post #2448.

 

[JAL]

I know it because Scripture says it was.

You'll have to ask them how they knew it.

You PURPORT to tell us how to follow God, and INSIST that it's not a matter of conscience, but when I press you on men like Abraham, Moses, and Joshua, you either deflect or, in this case, "You'll have to ask them."

Your theology is USELESS. You CANNOT tell us how to follow God because your position doesn't provide the answer. Tell you what, I'll stick with the rule of conscience since no one has found any plausible exceptions to it - neither in Scripture, nor in history, nor in their own personal lives.

 

[JAL]

Funny, how you would choose that option each time!

Should I try to be evil?

 

[Mark Quayle]

I usually do at least as much demonstration as you, and then you always accuse me of no demonstration. It's like listening to a broken record.

You keep asserting that the "rule of conscience always applies" but you never answer how it bears final authority in all matters of morality. You keep arguing right past what @Clare73 and I keep asking you to do. Then when we don't play your game, you say, "Deflection."

 

[Clare73]

For example, I'm not married, that should have been one of the options. Why won't you supply the relevant options?

And the same applies to me. If you feel I failed to supply relevant options, please tell me what I missed.

See post #2448.

 

[JAL]

You keep asserting that the "rule of conscience always applies" but you never answer how it bears final authority in all matters of morality. You keep arguing right past what @Clare73 and I keep asking you to do. Then when we don't play your game, you say, "Deflection."

Useless word games on "authority."

Show me a scenario where the rule of conscience shouldn't govern my behavior.

 

[Clare73]

You PURPORT to tell us how to follow God, and INSIST that it's not a matter of conscience, but when I press you on men like Abraham, Moses, and Joshua, you either deflect or, in this case, "You'll have to ask them."

Your theology is USELESS. You CANNOT tell us how to follow God because your position doesn't provide the answer. Tell you what, I'll stick with the rule of conscience since no one has found any plausible exceptions to it - neither in Scripture, nor in history, nor in their own personal lives.

You don't know how to follow God?
I suggest you take a look at his law.