I believe that a lot more ground has to be covered before you portray Christians as "naive", ".
*snip*. Not all Christians are Creationists. Most people that accept Evolution are religious.
This is particularly so, when we bear in mind that some secular and atheist scholars have rejected evolutionists' views.
I dare say you even have some quote mined quotes to prove that.
My understanding is that there are huge, huge gaps in evolutionary theory when it comes to explaining how life could have arisen though chance processes.
Is chemistry and physics chance processes? When you combine oxygen and hydrogen molecules and create water, is that chance? Well in a sence yes, but not in the "random chance" way you are using the word.
In fact, such an outcome is so improbable it could be regarded as 'virtually impossible'.
Its improbable I walk outside and get struck by lightening and die, but improbable things happen all the time every single day. Ive even heard statistics that a certian percentage of people die while putting thier socks on in the morning. Thats pretty crazy. Not sure how that happens. The death of Steve Irwin is quite improbable, considering what killed him was a creature where only 3 other recorded people had been killed by it. People surving inside the collapsed rubble of the WTC is improbable but it happened. But of course knowing you that have no idea what you are talking about when you say such things means this will go over your head.
Abiogenesis. No matter how much you want to lump every single science you disagree with into "Evolution" its not going to make it so.Contemporary theories of chemical evolution
do not seem to solve this problem, as they posit the chance formation of other highly complex chemical compounds, in structures that then make the transition to protein-based life.
Again with this "chance" rubbish.
...or say anything at all about the validity of the theory of Evolution.While this obstacle does not disprove the Theory of Evolution...
(psst... Evolution is biology, abiogenesis is mostly chemistry)
It seems quite likely that no satisfactory explanation will ever be found for how mere laws of physics and chemistry could put together the very specific and complex component parts of 'early life'.
For YECs especially nothing will be good enough. AIG and ICR have to actually sign sworn statements never to let any evidence change their minds. Fancy that. Talk to most Creationists long enough and you get the same admission. Course there are some Creationists that are simply ignorent, and with them you dont generally get this attitude. YECs are however the worst offenders, which makes sence; they are the most extreme.
There is also a cash prize on offer to anyone who can adequately demonstrate how a single-celled organism could have evolved from scratch (Creation Magazine).
OOh ooh, is that Kent-taxevadingfakePhD-Hovind challege? Even if it isnt since in science nothing is absolute and since these guys have to sign sworn statements of faith that say they will never allow any evidence change their minds, they can deny whatever they like. Some challenge.
I find a problem with you logic here. You say that science does not deal with the supernatural. But if the empirical evidence suggests that there exists an intelligent designer we call "God", how can the scientific community ignore such evidence and remain objective?
Except there is no empircal evidence that suggests the supernatural. Science cant deal with the supernatural because supernatural assumptions cant be tested or even hypothetically verified in any way whatsoever. The ID movement claims in a nudge nudge wink wink kind of a way that (natural) aliens could be the Intelligent Designer, and I agree. This is something I did actually believe for a bit in my early teens, mostly because I was bored... but the point is it would be fun and I wouldnt object to it. Sure would make things more interesting.
So we should ask the question, if aliens created us how can we validate this hypothesis? Well the ID movement arent doing any research to prove their point, all they are doing is lobbying school boards, writing anti-evolution books, doing lectures to groups of other ID supporters and churches and presenting misleading claims about their agenda and the state of science. They should accept their position for what it is. If I believed aliens created us, I'd still say the ID "theory" is bad science. And thats assuming a NATURAL designer, let alone a supernatural one. Bottom line is if you could find a way to verify supernatural assumptions you can have a reason to change the scientific method. Right now, you just want to change it because it isnt supporting your faith. That isnt a scientific reason.
Such a lack of objectivity cannot be rational - it is tunnel vision. It is a form of intellectual suicide, in that it rejects a plausible alternative line of explanation that finds some support in scientific data.
Its not a scientific alternative.
Thus, when scientists such as Michael Behe argue from the evidence of design in the human body, to the possible existence of an Intelligent Designer, their voice should be heard.
They've been heard many times. They dont produce any research, they dont write for peer review, they dont present their ideas to the scientific community in the proper fashion. Writing books and trying to sidestep the scientific method with lawyers is not the scientific method. And about Behe, he was asked in the Dover trial if ID was a scientific theory, he answered yes. However he had to admit that his definition of a scientific theory was so broad that astrology would be considered a theory.
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