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How some creationists pushed me away from christianity

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If you pursue god you will be left empty handed, but if you pursue God you will find Him.

"From one man He made every nation of men...God did this so that men would seek Him and perhaps reach out for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us." (Acts 17:26-27).

Sorry?:confused:
 
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But I do. This is how I know the Big Bang is not science. Scientists told me it isn't.
The "Big Bang" theory is indeed science. The universe had a beginning, or at least this phase of what we call the universe had a beginning. What you think you know... you don't.
 
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The universe is expanding, based on the interpretation of the color shift in the spectra of all the galaxies
The universe is "interpreted" to be expanding, but it is not "known" to be expanding. This is why it is called the "Big Bang Theory". A theory is an educated guess. It is not a known fact.
 
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The "Big Bang" theory is indeed science. The universe had a beginning, or at least this phase of what we call the universe had a beginning. What you think you know... you don't.
What I know is what I received from scientists who studied the subject.

What you have here are scientists disagreeing with scientists on the origin and nature of the universe. Scientists who study the subject don't even agree on the subject, so why should we?
 
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If you pursue god you will be left empty handed, but if you pursue God you will find Him.

Some pursue god. Others pursue God.

Until or if I ever know a god, I will not capitalize the word as a proper noun.

It's a shame my salvation rests on whether I have capitalized a word or not.

Open palm, insert face.
 
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Until or if I ever know a god, I will not capitalize the word as a proper noun.
For me it would be so disrespectful not to use a capital G.
For the Jewish people they do not feel worthy to spell His name out G-d.

God is not His name, that is more like a title like calling someone Mr President. Even if you do not respect the man, you still respect the office of President. There are lots of names in the Bible for God. It maybe better that people do not use them, so they can not be disrespectful or whatever.

In advertising we use Capitals a Lot to draw Attention to what we are trying to Sell.
 
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God is not His name, that is more like a title like calling someone Mr President. Even if you do not respect the man, you still respect the office of President.

But I'm not convinced there is even an "office", much less an entity that fills that position. Therefore, little g's.
 
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For me it would be so disrespectful not to use a capital G.
For the Jewish people they do not feel worthy to spell His name out G-d.

God is not His name, that is more like a title like calling someone Mr President. Even if you do not respect the man, you still respect the office of President. There are lots of names in the Bible for God. It maybe better that people do not use them, so they can not be disrespectful or whatever.

In advertising we use Capitals a Lot to draw Attention to what we are trying to Sell.
I respect the office of the President of the United States because it obviously exists.
 
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People who go before the Judgement Throne of God knows that exists also.
Are there any independently verifiable reports that indicate that this exists, and also that it was created by and for an entity who also created the universe as we know it?
 
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But I'm not convinced there is even an "office", much less an entity that fills that position. Therefore, little g's.
That does not make you any less accountable. Anyone that knows to do right and does not, is guilty. What they are convinced of does not have anything to do with it. People can be deceived. There is a lot of teaching in the Bible about deception. So you can not convince yourself there is no God and then think your going to get away with anything.
 
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That does not make you any less accountable. Anyone that knows to do right and does not, is guilty. What they are convinced of does not have anything to do with it. People can be deceived. There is a lot of teaching in the Bible about deception.
Can you really not see a logical problem with this argument? Just a small part of it is: you still have not given any justification as to why the Bible (and therefore all of Christian teaching) should be accepted as anything close to the word of god. Which goes back to the fact that you haven't given any solid evidence as to god's existence either.
 
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Are there any independently verifiable reports that indicate that this exists, and also that it was created by and for an entity who also created the universe as we know it?
This is verified by what we call a shadow and type. In this case they call it prison. It is filled with people who thought they were going to get away with something. Or people that did not understand Justice.
 
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That does not make you any less accountable. Anyone that knows to do right and does not, is guilty.

Are you really going to sit there and tell me your god is so petty that he'd punish me for not capitalizing a noun?

What they are convinced of does not have anything to do with it. People can be deceived. There is a lot of teaching in the Bible about deception. So you can not convince yourself there is no God and then think your going to get away with anything.

I have no interest in "getting away with" something. I simply don't recognize there is a god, and I do not lend any respect to something I don't believe in, therefore no capitalization. Not so hard to understand. I mean no disrespect by it, but I won't budge on this silly nitpick.
 
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you still have not given any justification as to why the Bible (and therefore all of Christian teaching) should be accepted as anything close to the word of god.
You got this backwards.
WE prove the Bible to be true again and again and again.
YOU are the one that has never been able to prove the Bible is NOT true.
 
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