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I'm sorry but Paul was directly commissioned by Jesus Christ.
Unless you have some vision or direct revelation from Christ, I will file this thread in the "X Files."
Acts 9 Jesus Christ directly commissioned Paul.
Acts 13 The Holy Spirit sets Paul and Barnabas apart.
You did not address this.
You give no epistemological reasoning at all but your mere opinion.
You should be able to explain it.
Guess not.
You reject Paul and his teachings.... that's your beef? I accept the Bible and all that's written in it!!!
Actually, I did read the first couple chapters of the book. I'm not going to pay money for it because, as I said, the author started out with the false presumption that Paul was not an apostle and built his case from that presumption rather than the Bible. I won't support false prophets.
No I haven't. I showed you how (1) this was a personal dissension and not a doctrinal division, and (2) how Peter's hypocrisy came before this. This is an outright lie.
This proves nothing. It's a red herring. We're (1) not fish, and (2) we rely on scripture whereas you rely on this book. I'll hold to scripture.
That's why I said I'll rely on the apostle Paul's fruit, not that which you attribute to him. What have you given in this thread besides self-claims and boasting?
I have given plenty of scripture to support what the Bible teaches us. You have given 0 to support yours. Paul is not a boaster, nor does he say that he is. He says he will "boast in his infirmities..." Because those are where Jesus' strength is displayed. Nor does he make presumptions. It is you who reject Paul's apostleship contrary to the call of Jesus. And you have yet to show scripture to support your opinion. It is you that claim that Paul "misled" the gentiles without being able to provide a single reference that evidences this. You rely not on the scriptures, but on your own opinion.That applies to you better because you rely on false claim of Paul against the call of Jesus.
That doesn't prove against the speculations of Paul weaved for ignorant Gentiles.
That is another blind move.
So you think Paul had special privilege for presumptions and boasting as admitted by him?
You know some Bibles will have Christ's words in red. I am only saying that they should be given paramount importance in our understanding of the way and life of Christ because that is the truth.
Yes, not as an apostle. It is revealed for those who believe the words of Christ.
LOL! ^^^^^ Paul was personally trained by Jesus for three years. Paul was needed to save Christianity, and restore the message of Grace/Faith not works. The disciples went bust post ascension. I suggest you read the Bible through Paul's eyes. JMOPaul was not a witness in Jesus' earthly ministry. He never heard the elaboration of the parables by Jesus. Therefore, all his epistles should be tested to determine whether they complement the preaching of Jesus or not. Furthermore, any important theological concept cannot be based on Paul's epistles alone. Gospel is the filter one has to apply to his letters.
Number of them. In particular Acts according to Thomas and Peter.
Right. Not as an apostle.
Not entirely, accept what is complementary to Jesus' preaching.
Mature spiritual growth is not instantaneous. All grew gradually including Paul. Paul wrote to specific congregations and people, not to you and me. Hence it requires spiritual maturity to grasp from the writings what is truth applicable to us and what is deviation. Everything written cannot be applied universally without considering the context and people.
That applies to you better because you rely on false claim of Paul against the call of Jesus.
That doesn't prove against the speculations of Paul weaved for ignorant Gentiles.
That is another blind move.
So you think Paul had special privilege for presumptions and boasting as admitted by him?
Paul clearly affirms the necessity for obedience here in Romans 2:Jesus also said that one has to be obedient to His words and produce fruit. Paul emphasizing only belief that is misleading.
I have given plenty of scripture to support what the Bible teaches us. You have given 0 to support yours. Paul is not a boaster, nor does he say that he is. He says he will "boast in his infirmities..." Because those are where Jesus' strength is displayed. Nor does he make presumptions. It is you who reject Paul's apostleship contrary to the call of Jesus. And you have yet to show scripture to support your opinion. It is you that claim that Paul "misled" the gentiles without being able to provide a single reference that evidences this. You rely not on the scriptures, but on your own opinion.
My position is not an opinion; it is what the Bible teaches us. Your position is an opinion of a 21st century writer who believes that he has more wisdom than an apostle of Jesus. Once again, I will go with scripture on all points.
I agree the direct Words of God carry weight of Scriptures. Now tell us where Paul disobeyed the commands of Jesus Christ? What did Jesus say that Paul said something different?
Indeed. I believe the direct Words of God as well, red and purple. Look we don't agree on a lot. So what transcendent standard to test our truth claims exists?
LOL! ^^^^^ Paul was personally trained by Jesus for three years. Paul was needed to save Christianity, and restore the message of Grace/Faith not works. The disciples went bust post ascension. I suggest you read the Bible through Paul's eyes. JMO
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