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Leviticus Only applied to the jews but Leviticus 15:22 condemns Homosexuality and the new testament also condemns Homosexuality.The new testament is for Chritians to follow and in Romans 1:26 it condemns Homosexuality.God Bless

Romans 1:26 "for this reason god gave them over to degrading passions for their women exchange the natural function for that which is unnatural and in the same way also the men abandon the natural function of the women and burned in their desire towards one another men with men commiting indecent acts and recieving in their own persons the due penalty of their error".
 
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Well the ten commandments are in the old testament and they are not repeated in the new testament.…Are the ten commandments also only for Jews? Or are you saying that only SOME parts of the old testament are ignorable by modern Christians?
 
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This is quite a straw man you are trying to build, unfortunately it has far too many holes. There are lots of attributes we get from our genetics that do not breed true. Blond hair is one example, hemophilia is another; one we'd seem to see a lot more of (based on the sales of blond hair color and bleach), the other we're glad it doesn't breed true. Race doesn't even breed entirely true, if a black and a white marry their children tend to be black but, once the white gene is in the DNA, a white child may appear born to two black parents.

There are scientists that believe that they are closing in on the genetics of homosexuality. Part of the reason it doesn't seem to breed true is that it appears to be based on multiple genetic markers and not just one.

But the biggest problem is that it just doesn't matter. Why? For the same reason religion is protected by civil rights laws and the constitution. There are some limits, you can't have a religion that practices murder as, then your religion is infringing on the rights of others. It's this reason that the Mormon's were require to stop polyandry, it was determined that prohibiting that practice was required for the good of society.

This now brings up homosexuality. I know that you'll claim that homosexuality causes damage to society, the problem is that no one has yet proved it. In fact, I don't believe any major medical or purely scientific group currently has a problem with homosexuality. These include the American Medical Association,
American Academy of Pediatrics, American Counseling Association, American Psychiatric Association, National Psychoanalytic Association, and the National Association of Social Workers.

In addition, by the Supreme Court rejecting the Texas Sodomy law as unconstitutional, it further indicates that there is no societal damage caused by homosexuality. Loving v. Virginia established that marriage is a human right. These two decisions, taken together, indicate that denying marriage to persons of the same sex is a denial of basic human rights, and so against the constitution.


How does the fact that the couple being same sex change this at all? Does it not join two families. Are there not heterosexual unions where the two families don't have warm fuzzies for each other (the classic story of Romeo & Juliet comes to mind; that it's fictional is irrelevant, it's a classic story because the story is extremely true in society).

I've heard arguments about how gay men have more sexual partners, how the gay (again gay male, doesn't apply to lesbians) community is geared more towards sex than relationships. Yet, isn't much of that societies fault? By your words, "Marriage is for a community, and past that community a society as a whole to best maintain societal order, justice, and stability." Since you are denying these gays marriage, it follows that they have no societal order, justice, or stability.

Buzz Dixon said:
Gay marriage does not contribute as much as it weakens.

Please prove this point.


I'm glad to hear you feel that way.


So, based on this argument, there should be no United States of America. The idea of a classless society, without class and caste systems and not even bans or restrictions. How could this be justified in the history of the world? Slavery, obviously by this argument, should still exist. This argument is inane, it would argue that humans cannot progress and that societies cannot advance.


Actually, this subject is being examined by historians now and debated. The evidence is not as clear cut as what you might think, you might want to check out Wikipedia.


This is just a way of making it seem like you are for equality while justifying bigotry. Let me try changing the subject of the argument: Christians have equal rights in Iran, they're free to attend the same Islamic mosques as anyone else.
 
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Buzz Dixon said:
Gay marriage does not contribute as much as it weakens.

i love it when people say stuff like this.

same-sex marriage is legal in belgium, the netherlands, spain, canada, and massachusetts. there should be mountains of proof that shows how gay marriage destroys society, especially in the netherlands where it's been legal since 2001.

but yet, there isn't any. strange!

I will repeat what I've posted earlier: Gays have all the same rights as every other human being on the planet.

that's a straight up lie. check out this list of 1049 rights and privileges which gay couples don't have. i'm curious to see how you'll spin this.

regarding everything else in this thread...
[bible]luke 18:9-14[/bible]
 
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