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That's okay it's meant to show you that there is a legitimate scientific explanation for the difference in the perception of timeI know, but it’s all over my head.
The genealogies in the Bible cover the last 6,000 years. From Adam to Jesus. I read and I study the genealogies, most people skip over them. The "Jewish" people in Jerusalem do a lot of research on Genes because they have a lot of inbreeding with the illness that goes along with that. Perhaps the most famous gene is the Cohan gene.If scientists are right and man as we are today has existed for 300,000 years then that would mean that the genealogies in the Bible are wrong.
That's a big if. A dirty little secret in science,. Chronologies are built off assumptions that are unproven.If scientists are right and man as we are today has existed for 300,000 years then that would mean that the genealogies in the Bible are wrong. That would mean that either the people in that chronology were actually living for tens of thousands of years before having a child or that there are people missing in the genealogies which causes a bigger problem because that means that they’re just flat out false. You can’t have a direct line of ancestry from Adam to Jesus if people are missing from that bloodline because then the scriptures would be saying that certain people had children that they didn’t actually have. That’s not an interpretational matter that becomes an outright false statement and this would have to occur numerous times in order for there to be a 294,000 year gap in the genealogies. If that’s the case then we’ve just proven that the Bible is not trustworthy.
What is WRONG is the idea that MAN in Chapter one is the same as Adam in Chapter two. Adam was in the Garden of Eden. We are told: Genesis 2:7 (NIV): "Then the Lord God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being."If scientists are right and man as we are today has existed for 300,000 years then that would mean that the genealogies in the Bible are wrong.
We’re not talking about the math from the Bible, we’re talking about the math formulas from the article.Most of the math in the Bible can be understood at a fifth grade level.
Do you mean science and your translation and your interpretation of the Hebrew Bible?The age of these hang on the notion that if their data is correct then these are X amount of years old. Who’s data is more complete, scientists’ or God’s?
There is no conflict. God is very exact and precise. The universe God created is very exact and precise.Who’s data is more complete, scientists’ or God’s?
My son can do the Math, he is a computer engineer. I can assure you that those people check up on each other. We are told: "Some people run away at the sight of a math equation. If that is you, just skip down to the results, but as the advert tells us, getting there is half the fun".We’re not talking about the math from the Bible, we’re talking about the math formulas from the article.
Concerning doctrines, Paul told Timothy that the problem was not with doctrine in general but that some were departing from sound doctrine and promulgating fables instead. Paul's view of sound doctrine is shown in what he decided to put to the Corinthians. He determined not to know anything among them save Christ and Him crucified. Therefore sound doctrine centres around Christ and His shed blood on the Cross.Yes, evolutionary science involves a lot of deductions and inferences it seems to me, which you could characterize as speculative, or 'educated guessing'.
I like the inclination to simply stick to the text of the Bible.
Simply reading and listening to the text of the Bible would not include YEC, OEC, etc. -- as all of those theories are of course not actually anywhere in the Bible (which never gives a number for the age of the Earth....).
All such ideas involve interpretations and usually also added ideas not in the text (often just assumed without even having awareness), as soon as they try to specify an amount of time for creation, in that the 'days' can be interpreted in a number of ways, such as obediently to the truth of Bible Gateway passage: 2 Peter 3:8 - New International Version
-- which would instantly mean (if we believe 2nd Peter 3:8 literally) that we cannot specify the mere duration time of the 'days' for God (and perhaps we should not even wish to do so!).
And...
There is an even bigger fish here, you are touching on.
The great majority of doctrines all various churches have involve interpretations and often inferred ideas (conclusions reached by bringing in our own thinking, like for the Trinity Doctrine, which like most any doctrine can fit scripture quite well).
I (just like you I would guess) believe in the Trinity Doctrine, but....nevertheless (even though some doctrines are almost universally thought true) it's wise for us not to use doctrines to filter scripture as we read.
And....anyone is filtering out and ignoring scripture whenever they read with a doctrine in mind as they read...
The thoughts talk over the text.
So, I've tried here at CF in about 100-200 posts to encourage people to just read with pure listening, silencing all other thoughts, including doctrines, to just listen and hear.
Without then needing to reform the text to just be a doctrine, doctrine D.2 or G.7, etc....
What use is a doctrine then? Well....in fairness, doctrines are what caused churches to split, and so it's reasonable to admit that in general, together as a whole when we include all doctrines that exist -- doctrines have done more harm than good.
Why would they have a belly button if they were not born?If ever there was an opportunity to disprove the Bible, DNA would be it. But the DNA evidence perfectly supports the Bible even if it does not support bad translations and bad interpretations. It all comes down to the fact that Adam and Eve had a belly button. No matter how much people claim otherwise.
Yes so man couldn’t have existed before 6,000 years ago.The genealogies in the Bible cover the last 6,000 years. From Adam to Jesus.
That is the point, Adam and Eve were born. Their DNA lines up with people who came before them. Bible Adam and Science Adam are not the same person. Science does use the terms Adam, Eve and Eden. Bryan Sykes wrote a book called "The Seven Daughters of Eve. The Science That Reveals Our Genetic Ancestry,"Why would they have a belly button if they were not born?
Jesus said: Matthew 18:3 "“unless you are converted and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven". For me that means being able to do 5th grade math. As a carpenter I was amazed at how many people could not do more then 8th grade math. The amish drop out of school in the 8th grade.We’re not talking about the math from the Bible, we’re talking about the math formulas from the article.
The first man was Adam. Genesis 2 is a reiteration of Genesis 1.What is WRONG is the idea that MAN in Chapter one is the same as Adam in Chapter two. Adam was in the Garden of Eden. We are told: Genesis 2:7 (NIV): "Then the Lord God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being."
Adam had the breath of life. Man in Chapter one did not have the breath of life. A lot of work has gone into understanding how man the food gather became a food producer. This is the BEGINNING of Civilization. We see many, many beginning with Adam and Eve in Chapter two.
All the books in the world do not explain what is going on in chapter one and chapter two. John 21 25 "If they were all written in books, I don't suppose there would be room enough in the whole world for all the books."
Genesis 4:14 Cain says: "You have banished me from the land and from your presence; you have made me a homeless wanderer. Anyone who finds me will kill me!”
Who was Cain worried about IF Adam, Eve and Cain were the only people alive at the time?
That’s not even close to what the scriptures say. Our DNA lines up 97% with a pig. It lines up 98% with a chimpanzee. It lines up 60% with a banana. There are numerous similarities in DNA to all life forms that are not ancestrally related.That is the point, Adam and Eve were born. Their DNA lines up with people who came before them. Bible Adam and Science Adam are not the same person. Science does use the terms Adam, Eve and Eden. Bryan Sykes wrote a book called "The Seven Daughters of Eve. The Science That Reveals Our Genetic Ancestry,"
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The answer to this depends on your faith - not in God or the bible, but the carbon dating method. If you believe in the bible, then the earth is merely about 6000 years old, you can actually add up all the years recorded in the various genealogies and chronicles and Daniel's 490 years and reach a sum total about 4030; if you believe in carbon dating despite its glaring flaws, errors and limitations, then the earth is 4.6 billion years old as so called "scientists" think.Some Christians think that the earth is between 6000 to 15,000 years old (coinciding with the Neolithic Age). Scientisgts think that it is 4.5 billion years old. Here is an attempt to resolve this incongruity.
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