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BNR32FAN

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What young earth creationists also fail to grasp is that we are in the 7th Day now.
Nope, In every single passage referring to God’s rest it is referred to in the past tense, not present tense. That should’ve been an easy indicator to spot.
 
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What young earth creationists also fail to grasp is that we are in the 7th Day now.
Nope, I’m every single passage referring to God’s rest it is referred to in the past tense, not present tense. That should’ve been an easy indicator
 
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This explanation escapes me as well because God exists in all time simultaneously. It doesn’t take Him a day to do anything. From God’s perspective a day doesn’t even exist other than in a worldly perspective. God is in all time all the time. He’s in today, yesterday, last week, next year, etc, etc all the time. From His perspective He NEVER has to wait for anything.
 
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No sorry Yom does not mean 24 hour days. The Hebrew language is not as diverse as the English Language we have today.
And yet I just showed you examples of how the word was used exactly how we would use it today.
 
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This explanation escapes me as well because God exists in all time simultaneously. It doesn’t take Him a day to do anything. From God’s perspective a day doesn’t even exist other than in a worldly perspective.
God did not name Dinosaurs, Animals and every other creature in the garden if we believe the young earth already debunked nonsense. Adam did. Are you seriously suggesting her named 20,000 creatures a second.
 
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Nope, In every single passage referring to God’s rest it is referred to in the past tense, not present tense. That should’ve been an easy indicator to spot.
Your well rehearsed in your young earth nonsense, I give you that. A being that exists out of time and has no start or end past and present tense cannot apply.
 
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God did not name Dinosaurs, Animals and every other creature in the garden if we believe the young earth already debunked nonsense. Adam did. Are you seriously suggesting her named 20,000 creatures a second.
There weren’t that many species back then. Are you aware of how many new species have been added from crossbreeding? Chihuahuas and poodles are just two examples amongst thousands of others that didn’t exist back then. And I never said that God named the animals. I’ve stated several times in this discussion that Adam did.
 
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none of which is supported by common Hebrew grammatical rules according to Hebrew experts.
The verses I quoted from the Old Testament do not support Hebrew grammatical rules? And which Hebrew experts are you referring to?
 
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Your well rehearsed in your young earth nonsense, I give you that. A being that exists out of time and has no start or end past and present tense cannot apply.
It can if it’s in reference to our time. From our worldly perspective God’s rest was past tense because we are not in all time like He is, we’re only in the moment.
 
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BNR32FAN what’s your response to the part where it says that “it did for the dinosaurs and science proves it”?
 
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There is more to notice. And it's so wonderful.

When you have time and feel well disposed, I would love you to notice the something wonderful, the farther reaching, profound significance of what happens in Genesis 2:

... Adam (just like we read) was the first human being to be given a specifically God-breathed spirit.

(and not like Neanderthals and other types, but the first of us)

Spirit
is associated to wind and air and the Breath of God, and you'll recognize this in a very very famous verse you may know by heart.

And with that he breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit." -- John 20:22

God breathed Life (as in with a capital "L") into Adam ---

Giving Adam the first-ever human soul that would then be accountable to God on the Day of Judgement to come.

Making Adam the first of us.

All other hominids (Neanderthals, etc.) and even modern humans that were already created in day 6 of creation did not have God-breathed spirit/souls that will be accountable on the Day of Judgement.

So, Adam was the first of us humans that will be Judged on the Day of Judgment.

There is more we can notice once we see this...

For example, also when Cain murdered his brother Abel and then was exiled to travel off to the land of Nod, and had a wife there, it seems likely that instead of marrying a sister, Cain found a wife there, from peoples that already lived there, humans from Day 6....

This does raise one really interesting question though. Did those other humans in the land of Nod already living there....did they have souls accountable to God on the Day of Judgement?

We are not told if after God gave Adam the first-ever soul accountable to God on the Day of Judgement whether God might also have then given all other already living humans outside the Garden souls also.

Maybe. Maybe He then gave accountable souls to all living humans outside (after the fall in the Garden, as Adam and Eve were ejected) -- all that are our type, not Neanderthals but all the modern humans, who look just like us.

This and many small details about very many things are not told to us. God is instead in the scripture teaching us lessons about life for us today -- for me and you for our lives today!

About how we should live.

I try to always carefully remember what is told to us, and what is left for us to try to guess at, and not confuse the 2.
 
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All other hominids (Neanderthals, etc.) and even modern humans that were already created in day 6 of creation did not have God-breathed spirit/souls that will be accountable on the Day of Judgement.
Good point. See Adam, Eve, and Evolution.
 
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BNR32FAN what’s your response to the part where it says that “it did for the dinosaurs and science proves it”?
My response would be that theories aren’t proof, they’re evidence. There are no dating methods that can confirm the era of dinosaurs. The study of sediment layers and thermoluminescence dating are both based on theories with incomplete data. They are based on assumptions of what actually took place when the layers were formed, not actual proof. They’re based on if what we believe is accurate then these fossils would be X amount of years old. So there could be numerous variables that aren’t being taken into consideration because scientists can’t calculate factors that they aren’t aware of.
 
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Will they ever be able to provide proof of the era of dinosaurs by dating methods? My former pastor said that things like this are just hypothesis.
 
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Here is an attempt to resolve this incongruity.
Incongruity. I go by KISS, keep it simple. Science is science and bible is bible. I believe there are no contradictions and no one can prove that there are. It is pretty clear that there is a lot we do not know or understand.
 
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Incongruity. I go by KISS, keep it simple. Science is science and bible is bible. I believe there are no contradictions and no one can prove that there are. It is pretty clear that there is a lot we do not know or understand.
So how old is the earth according to the KISS?
 
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