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only if there were 20,000 "kinds" in that one garden space/location. Did he name {"bird") or did he name every species of bird. The text is not that specific.It nonsense cause for Adam to name every animal in the afternoon it would require him to name 20,000 a second.
But it is where the text of Genesis 1 and Ex 20:11 (which is legal code ... not symbolism) agree.Okay. But you are still maintaining that it was all within a 24 hour day. That's where we differ.
Your talking nonsense now. Adam could not have done everything described in 24 hours in day 6 as a mere mortal human like you and I. Lets not forget he had a good long sleep why God made Eve and the Garden managed to grow and Adam cultivated it.only if there were 20,000 "kinds" in that one garden space/location. Did he name {"bird") or did he name every species of bird. The text is not that specific.
We also know that every species that we have now did not always exist. We have way more species now because animals crossbred creating new species.only if there were 20,000 "kinds" in that one garden space/location. Did he name {"bird") or did he name every species of bird. The text is not that specific.
No really it dose not. The 24 hour thing is just made up nonsense mainly down to a dodgy translation of the hebrew word for day.But it is where the text of Genesis 1 and Ex 20:11 (which is legal code ... not symbolism) agree.
Dinosaurs were also not in the Garden, they were long extinct..We also know that every species that we have now did not always exist. We have way more species now because animals crossbred creating new species.
As has already been said on this thread, the Hebrew word "yom" could mean "day", "epoch", "stage" or "phase" according to the context in which it is used, so Moses could well have said that creation was done in six phases and still be quite correct. The problem is with the English translation that can only translate "yom" as day so someone who has no knowledge of Biblical Hebrew would assert that Moses meant a 24 day when he used the word "yom" to describe the six stages of creation.But it is where the text of Genesis 1 and Ex 20:11 (which is legal code ... not symbolism) agree.
Also the Hebrew Language only has something like 80,000 words where as the English language has millions.As has already been said on this thread, the Hebrew word "yom" could mean "day", "epoch", "stage" or "phase" according to the context in which it is used, so Moses could well have said that creation was done in six phases and still be quite correct. The problem is with the English translation that can only translate "yom" as day so someone who has no knowledge of Biblical Hebrew would assert that Moses meant a 24 day when he used the word "yom" to describe the six stages of creation.
That would mean that death came into the world before the fall.Dinosaurs were also not in the Garden, they were long extinct..
We don’t know how long Adam slept, since God was the “surgeon” it could’ve easily been a few minutes. The scriptures also don’t actually say that Adam even started cultivating anything on the 6th day.Your talking nonsense now. Adam could not have done everything described in 24 hours in day 6 as a mere mortal human like you and I. Lets not forget he had a good long sleep why God made Eve and the Garden managed to grow and Adam cultivated it.
It's so obvious that the events of Genesis took place over a long period of time. The 24 hour day thing is not scriptual just dodgy theology from poor translation of the Hebrew Word.We don’t know how long Adam slept, since God was the “surgeon” it could’ve easily been a few minutes. The scriptures also don’t actually say that Adam even started cultivating anything on the 6th day.
Then why add the term “there was evening and there was morning”? What purpose does that phrase serve if it is not indicating an actual 24 hour day. And people who say the word Yom can mean an age or time in this case don’t understand why they included age or time in the definition. We use the word day today exactly the same way the Hebrews used it 3500 years ago. You can’t just look at a lexicon or concordance and pick whatever definition suits your theology you have to understand the usage of the different definitions. Here’s an example.No really it dose not. The 24 hour thing is just made up nonsense mainly down to a dodgy translation of the hebrew word for day.
It did for Dinosaurs and science proves it. Again probaly more dodgy theology from poor translation. Most likely the scriptures meant spiritual death rather than physical death. Nowhere does it imply that God intended Humans to be immortal before the fall, otherwise pro creation becomes pointless. I think you will find it was always gods plan for physical death and then an eternal spirital existence with him in heaven. The fall pretty much screwed up the plan.That would mean that death came into the world before the fall.
What makes it obvious that creation couldn’t have possibly taken place in 6 days?It's so obvious that the events of Genesis took place over a long period of time. The 24 hour day thing is not scriptual just dodgy theology from poor translation of the Hebrew Word.
You seem to be contradicting yourself here. If it was always God’s plan for man to experience physical death, which I completely agree with you, then the fall didn’t screw up His plan, it was always part of His plan. Not that He actually set it up to unfold that way, because if that was His intention He didn’t have to start Adam & Eve in the garden with the Tree of Life to begin with. He could’ve just created them and stuck them into the world, but I believe His intention was to allow man to go ahead and be the cause of his own destruction so that He could step in and show mercy and save man.I think you will find it was always gods plan for physical death and then an eternal spirital existence with him in heaven. The fall pretty much screwed up the plan.
The evening and morning obviously refer to days in heaven. Explain how there can be an evening and morning if the Sun is not created until the 4th Day.Then why add the term “there was evening and there was morning”? What purpose does that phrase serve if it is not indicating an actual 24 hour day. And people who say the word Yom can mean an age or time in this case don’t understand why they included age or time in the definition. We use the word day today exactly the same way the Hebrews used it 3500 years ago. You can’t just look at a lexicon or concordance and pick whatever definition suits your theology you have to understand the usage of the different definitions. Here’s an example.
“In the seventh month, on the seventeenth day (Yom) of the month, the ark rested upon the mountains of Ararat.”
Genesis 8:4 NASB1995
Above is an example of Yom being used in reference to a 24 hour period.
“but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day (Yom) that you eat from it you will surely die.””
Genesis 2:17 NASB1995
“Now these are the records of the generations of Aaron and Moses at the time (Yom) when the Lord spoke with Moses on Mount Sinai.”
Numbers 3:1 NASB1995
“So it came about in the course of time (Yom) that Cain brought an offering to the Lord of the fruit of the ground.”
Genesis 4:3 NASB1995
Above are examples of the word Yom being used as a reference of an age or a time. This is the same exact way we would use the word day today. Like if I were to say “back in my father’s day” or “back in the day” or “in the day of the Civil War”. The Hebrews didn’t use the word any differently than we do.
In every single usage of the word Yom that is connected to a number value it ALWAYS means a 24 hour period. It is never once used in the scriptures as a period of time when it is connected to a number value. This is what so many people fail to understand about the usage of the word Yom. So when a concordance or lexicon gives several definitions of a word it doesn’t always mean that the word can be translated to fit any of those definitions because the differences in those definitions can depend upon its grammatical usage or the context that the word is being used.
Firstly it can be disproved by Science and the period described on the sixth day could not have taken place over a 24 hour period. If it did Adam would have named 20,000 Animals a second. too many events occur on creation day 6 to be squeezed into 24 hours.What makes it obvious that creation couldn’t have possibly taken place in 6 days?
What young earth creationists also fail to grasp is that we are in the 7th Day now.What makes it obvious that creation couldn’t have possibly taken place in 6 days?
Yes I expected that this was the problem. So you don’t believe in miracles. Science also says that a man can’t come back to life after being dead for three days, and that a man can’t walk on water, and that a virgin can’t give birth, and that a donkey can’t talk, and that a person cannot be turned into a pillar of salt.Firstly it can be disproved by Science and the period described on the sixth day could not have taken place over a 24 hour period. If it did Adam would have named 20,000 Animals a second. too many events occur on creation day 6 to be squeezed into 24 hours.
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