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How much should we focus on God?

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I know the quick answer is 100% of the time. But here's this, even if I pray and ask God to bless my day at work, I'm not literally thinking or concentrating on God all day while I'm at work, when I'm studying for my job in my off hours, I'm not consciously reflecting on God, before I exercise, I ask God to bless my workout, but the moment I begin lifting my thoughts are on the heavy weights I'm lifting, not God per say. Part of me wonders if I should feel guilty about that. I remember teachings throughout the day, especially if some co-worker is acting like a jerk, or someone needs help and I just want to rest instead, but I have to help now. So, my question is, in the giving of ourselves over to the Lord, are we to be obsessive in our relationship with Him or are we allowed to breathe on our own a bit and concentrate on our careers and some personal 'wants'?
 

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Welcome to the forum.

The way I see it is He's always present within us, we just take that for granted. The time we spend working trying to do a good job for our employer or in service to others, that's Him, that's Love at work. If I'm working out, that's taking care of the body He provided, as a temple for Him.
 
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I know the quick answer is 100% of the time. But here's this, even if I pray and ask God to bless my day at work, I'm not literally thinking or concentrating on God all day while I'm at work, when I'm studying for my job in my off hours, I'm not consciously reflecting on God, before I exercise, I ask God to bless my workout, but the moment I begin lifting my thoughts are on the heavy weights I'm lifting, not God per say. Part of me wonders if I should feel guilty about that. I remember teachings throughout the day, especially if some co-worker is acting like a jerk, or someone needs help and I just want to rest instead, but I have to help now. So, my question is, in the giving of ourselves over to the Lord, are we to be obsessive in our relationship with Him or are we allowed to breathe on our own a bit and concentrate on our careers and some personal 'wants'?
It comes down to what motivates you. I use the “helping an old lady cross the street” scenario. A pagan may do it, but not for God’s glory. A Christian can do it because it brings glory to God. So one is good, the other isn’t. If you attitude is


Whether, then, you eat or drink or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God.
— 1 Corinthians 10:31

then you are on the right track.
 
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are we to be obsessive in our relationship

We are not to obsesse about anything.
Obsessing is unhealthy.

Our relationship with God is to be one of Love.
We can do nothing to save our selve, nothing to impress God, nothing to deserve anything from God.

What we do as good works etc is done as an act of love for God and that includes how we live.

So Work hard for the honour of God.
 
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I know the quick answer is 100% of the time. But here's this, even if I pray and ask God to bless my day at work, I'm not literally thinking or concentrating on God all day while I'm at work, when I'm studying for my job in my off hours, I'm not consciously reflecting on God, before I exercise, I ask God to bless my workout, but the moment I begin lifting my thoughts are on the heavy weights I'm lifting, not God per say. Part of me wonders if I should feel guilty about that. I remember teachings throughout the day, especially if some co-worker is acting like a jerk, or someone needs help and I just want to rest instead, but I have to help now. So, my question is, in the giving of ourselves over to the Lord, are we to be obsessive in our relationship with Him or are we allowed to breathe on our own a bit and concentrate on our careers and some personal 'wants'?
As a believer God has made His home in us. We walk with Him daily through His Holy Spirit. He never leaves us. Blessings.
 
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I know the quick answer is 100% of the time. But here's this, even if I pray and ask God to bless my day at work, I'm not literally thinking or concentrating on God all day while I'm at work, when I'm studying for my job in my off hours, I'm not consciously reflecting on God, before I exercise, I ask God to bless my workout, but the moment I begin lifting my thoughts are on the heavy weights I'm lifting, not God per say.

No doubt many activities in life require full concentration on the task at hand. Unlike walking around, mowing the lawn, sweeping a floor, driving in the car etc. So we do have a lot of hours during the day to praise God, pray and we also have time morning and evening to spend time reading the Bible and praying.

In that part "alone" most of us will fall short very often... let alone "every second at work" which I suggest is not our real problem. It is all those "other times" where we are needing a bit more focus.
 
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In Brother Lawrence's book "Practicing the Presence of God" he tackles this very subject. He conveys that God understands when we need our mental faculties to accomplish whatever task may lay before us. But that before we do said task and after we should as much as we can, return our thoughts to Him. It's something to strive for certainly, and something that hardly anyone would really ever be able to achieve. Some may, 24/7 mental focus on God.

The bit about personal wants though, I'd be wary of not focusing on God to pursue personal desires. Very often that's how Satan gets a foothold in our lives. Just be careful with it I guess
 
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I know the quick answer is 100% of the time. But here's this, even if I pray and ask God to bless my day at work, I'm not literally thinking or concentrating on God all day while I'm at work, when I'm studying for my job in my off hours, I'm not consciously reflecting on God, before I exercise, I ask God to bless my workout, but the moment I begin lifting my thoughts are on the heavy weights I'm lifting, not God per say. Part of me wonders if I should feel guilty about that. I remember teachings throughout the day, especially if some co-worker is acting like a jerk, or someone needs help and I just want to rest instead, but I have to help now. So, my question is, in the giving of ourselves over to the Lord, are we to be obsessive in our relationship with Him or are we allowed to breathe on our own a bit and concentrate on our careers and some personal 'wants'?

For the Christian person, there is no "God's stuff" and "my stuff." There is just "God's stuff." All of Reality extends from God and is sustained, moment-by-moment, by Him. All of your capacities, physical, intellectual and spiritual are obtained from Him; every bit of your environment exists only because God exists; the universe is and remains as a consequence of God. We are in His reality; He is not in ours.

Does this mean that you can't be absorbed in some activity for a time and not directly, consciously consider God? No. We simply aren't capable of that kind of constant, divided attention. There are many things I can think of (as you can, too) that require careful focus, distraction to anything else being very dangerous. Using many power/industrial tools requires this kind of focus, the loss of fingers, and arms and lives resulting from distraction. Imagine fighting a battle and trying to defend against the thrusts and slashes of an enemy's sword or spear while trying to remain absorbed with God at the same time. Yikes! You'd be wounded and/or dead in short order. Driving a car at high speed, or playing a difficult piece of music, or any number of other things require we look away from God to what we are doing. I don't think God gets in a big huff when we are, for a time, oriented exclusively on these things.

There are many things, though, that we choose to do that not only distract us from God but keep us distracted and, in fact, compete with God for the central place in our lives. Really, these things are just reflections of our natural self-centeredness, of Self, which is always, at bottom, the real "contender" with God for the throne of our hearts. When we choose to be caught up by these things to the diminishment or exclusion of God in our lives we are dishonoring Him and guilty of wrongdoing.

Christ taught that where we invest our time, energy and money - our "treasure" - there our heart will be (Matthew 6:21). The Christian who is endlessly playing video games, hour upon hour, day upon day, never spending even a fraction of the same time and energy on their relationship with God, finds their heart, in time, far from Him, in bondage to a gaming addiction. For other Christians, it's a sport, or hobby, or some other kind of entertainment, or a relationship, that grabs them and displaces God as the central "Hub" of their lives. Each of these "idols" distracting from, and competing with God, in their lives exists in violation of God's explicit prohibition of such things in the lives of His children.

Exodus 20:1-6
1 Then God spoke all these words, saying,
2 "I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.
3 "You shall have no other gods before Me.
4 "You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth.
5 "You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God...


Matthew 4:8-10
8 Again, the devil took Him to a very high mountain and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory;
9 and he said to Him, "All these things I will give You, if You fall down and worship me."
10 Then Jesus said to him, "Go, Satan! For it is written, 'YOU SHALL WORSHIP THE LORD YOUR GOD, AND SERVE HIM ONLY.'"


And so, there should be no personal want, no career choice, no activity in which you engage, that dishonors God or significantly distracts you from Him, violates His Moral Law, or diminishes His central position in your life. So, go ahead and lift weights; just don't let weightlifting overtake God's first place in your life. Go ahead and take a vacation to the Caribbean; just don't leave God behind, ignored until you return home. Go ahead and throw yourself into your career; just don't neglect to shine brightly for Christ among your co-workers, serving as his hands and heart to them, sharing with them the light and love of the Savior whom they desperately need to know.

Your life is eternal. Your eternal life to come will make the life you live in this world a mere eye-blink, a flicker of time. Why, then, live as though this life is all there is, as though it is not the tiny flash in the brilliant expanse of eternity for which you were made?

That eternity will revolve tightly around God, not you, of course. Do you know God such that this prospect delights your heart and gives you powerful hope in the midst of the trouble and tragedy of your earthly existence? If the thought of an eternity centered upon God doesn't fill you with joy, I would suggest to you that you aren't ready for the forever for which God made you. Our lives here on earth are, at bottom, a time of preparation for the unending future with God that is soon to come. Are you actually living in preparation for eternity as the Bible commands? Or are you trying to cram into the time you have here as much "good stuff" as you can, thinking an eternity centered tightly on God is going to be a very dull business?

Philippians 3:20-21
20 But our citizenship is in heaven, and from it we await a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ,
21 who will transform our lowly body to be like his glorious body, by the power that enables him even to subject all things to himself.


Matthew 6:19-20
19 “Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal,
20 but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal.


Colossians 3:1-4
1 If then you have been raised with Christ, seek the things that are above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God.
2 Set your minds on things that are above, not on things that are on earth.
3 For you have died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God.
4 When Christ who is your life appears, then you also will appear with him in glory.


Romans 8:23-24
23 And not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies.
24 For in this hope we were saved...
 
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From the history of Christianity, I know that there were people who could do this. They could think about God almost constantly and even in their sleep. This was achieved through years of prayers and the hardest feats (trainings). These are Saints Anthony and Macarius the Great, Saint John of the Ladder, Saint Isaac the Syrian and many others. But what these Christians have in common is that they had no family and no Christian obligations. They literally took the words of Christ: to leave everything and follow Him. But even this is not enough. In the Kiev-Pechersk Patericon, an incident is told. In the monastery somewhere in the 12th century, the young monk Nikita wanted to immediately begin to live like perfect monks. He wanted to shut myself up in a room and spend all the time only in prayer, spiritual reading and thoughts about God. Experienced monks persuading him to go towards this gradually. Working for the good of others and gradually increasing the proportion of time devoted to prayer, spiritual reading and thoughts of God. But he wanted to achieve it right away. He took the Bible and the prayer book and closed himself in the room. Schedule - 24/7. And this led him to trouble, he almost died. Experienced monks saved him. This suggests that even if a person has opportunities (lack of family and social responsibilities), you need to move gradually.
 
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Focus on God.. We have the natural and supernatural/Spiritual. God is a spirit. Seems man tosses God in with all of this world and one must have balance. There is a truth in that yet not. We must have heard don't be to heavenly minded your not earthly good. Its not anywhere in the word of God but some really believe that.

Not to go deep but there are times one would love to walk in the anointing 24/7 but we as man can not handel so much power of God that we need a break. Are we not told to be in pray all the time and to have HIs word before our eyes day and night '
Let them not depart from thine eyes, keep them in the midst of thine heart;" as in always there. How much of God does one want? Yes there is a price and few pay it. We love some of the things in our lifes and will not give them up so easy. We say we will but when push comes to shove we won't.

I will say "feel guilty" that is not from God see guilt is something that Christ also died for :) He never condemns you nor ever makes you feel guilty. Thats the part that hurts. Well for me there are those times you find you did nothing said nothing prayed not at all and yet His love, mercy, grace.. He treats you as if nothing happened. Man would no longer be are friend.. never talk to us again but Him? Hes still there arms open and that beautiful smile. Hurts to see what we really are at times yet the Father sees us righteous and holy..thats who we really are because we believe in Jesus.

So never feel guilty.. I know what I should be doing all the time but thats me
 
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It is good if one can view life from a spiritual lens and appreciate the smallest blessings. The world becomes more vibrant, full of wonder.

This post reminds me to lift some weights lol. I've been getting lazier with it.
 
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Beloved one, brethren, you asked how much you should focus on God.

If you are considering “focus”, considering about how your mind might focus, then consider this is what we have heard:

“For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭8:5-6‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

So consider your question and consider every answers to your question whether the answers let you set your mind on the things of the Spirit or on the things of the flesh.

So you know that you should focus your mind on the things of the Spirit, that you may have Life and Peace.

To God the Father be all glory and thanksgiving through Christ. Amen
 
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I know the quick answer is 100% of the time. But here's this, even if I pray and ask God to bless my day at work, I'm not literally thinking or concentrating on God all day while I'm at work, when I'm studying for my job in my off hours, I'm not consciously reflecting on God, before I exercise, I ask God to bless my workout, but the moment I begin lifting my thoughts are on the heavy weights I'm lifting, not God per say. Part of me wonders if I should feel guilty about that. I remember teachings throughout the day, especially if some co-worker is acting like a jerk, or someone needs help and I just want to rest instead, but I have to help now. So, my question is, in the giving of ourselves over to the Lord, are we to be obsessive in our relationship with Him or are we allowed to breathe on our own a bit and concentrate on our careers and some personal 'wants'?
God tells us we are to work as if unto him. So he does know that we are given skills and tasks and have to work to pay for our needs and so I would believe that means since he has given us 'assignments' that we are not going to be able to 'focus solely on him all day' unless we are a monk or nun or similar. I do believe that when we obey God, that is a form of worship to him. And there is nothing saying we can't worship him by doing what we do for his glory, which is what I think he expects.
 
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I know the quick answer is 100% of the time. But here's this, even if I pray and ask God to bless my day at work, I'm not literally thinking or concentrating on God all day while I'm at work, when I'm studying for my job in my off hours, I'm not consciously reflecting on God, before I exercise, I ask God to bless my workout, but the moment I begin lifting my thoughts are on the heavy weights I'm lifting, not God per say. Part of me wonders if I should feel guilty about that. I remember teachings throughout the day, especially if some co-worker is acting like a jerk, or someone needs help and I just want to rest instead, but I have to help now. So, my question is, in the giving of ourselves over to the Lord, are we to be obsessive in our relationship with Him or are we allowed to breathe on our own a bit and concentrate on our careers and some personal 'wants'?

Ecclesiastes speaks of this in quite a few places. It speaks of enjoying what God has given us, to enjoy the natural part of life. We are not to forget God, but neither are we to obsess in seeking every minute of the day.


Ecc 3:13 and also that every man should eat and drink and enjoy the good of all his labor—it is the gift of God.

Ecc 5:19 As for every man to whom God has given riches and wealth, and given him power to eat of it, to receive his heritage and rejoice in his labor—this is the gift of God.
For the most part, anything that robs your joy is not from God. It is important to have a vibrant prayer life, but also important to enjoy what God has given you, both in your work and natural life.
 
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I know the quick answer is 100% of the time. But here's this, even if I pray and ask God to bless my day at work, I'm not literally thinking or concentrating on God all day while I'm at work, when I'm studying for my job in my off hours, I'm not consciously reflecting on God, before I exercise, I ask God to bless my workout, but the moment I begin lifting my thoughts are on the heavy weights I'm lifting, not God per say. Part of me wonders if I should feel guilty about that. I remember teachings throughout the day, especially if some co-worker is acting like a jerk, or someone needs help and I just want to rest instead, but I have to help now. So, my question is, in the giving of ourselves over to the Lord, are we to be obsessive in our relationship with Him or are we allowed to breathe on our own a bit and concentrate on our careers and some personal 'wants'?
Try this --

Those short prayers during the day as you mention above.

Then at least an hour of devotional time reading something like a commentary on the life of Christ.

For example -- this world-class epic commentary;
Desire of Ages
 
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