How much diffrence is there between Anglicans & Catholics???

[Hector Medina]

Hello,How'ya doin,welcome and howdy,

It seems to me like they are the same except that Englands heads(Ang.) one and Vatican heads(Cath.) the other..........

But I don`t know anything .......


God Bless,

Hector

 

[jukesk9]

http://www.cofe.anglican.org/

is the link to the official Church of England website.  The Anglicans ordain women priests and their new Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, (sort of their pope) issued a statement saying that his interpretation of the Bible is that homosexual relations is prohibited between married hetereosexuals but as long as two homosexuals stay faithful to each other, it's okay. 

For worship services, Anglicans use what's called the Book of Common Prayer, which also contains the 39 Articles in which several practices of the Catholic Church are called "repugnant" to the Word of God.  They denounce Purgatory, the Communion of Saints and Transubstantiation to name a few.  Here in the United States, Anglicans are called Episcopals (deriving from the Episcopacy which I think means office of Bishops, etc.). 

 

[Hoonbaba]

Aside from the differences, there's some similarities, like apostolic succession, and their worship service is supposedly very similar to mass.  I think the same can be said for Lutherans as well.

-Jason

 

[dignitized]

The anglican church is emerced in liberal antischolastic newage revisionisty history and doctrine.

 

[Hoonbaba]

Originally posted by Br. Max
The anglican church is emerced in liberal antischolastic newage revisionisty history and doctrine.

 

Uh....antischolastic newage revisionisty?  ?  what does that mean??? =)

God bless!

-Jason

 

[dignitized]

hoon:

antischolastic - meaning the reject all previous learning on a subject as irrelivant and or tainted

newage meaning the have incorperated eastern and or secular humanistic philosophies and doctrines into the Christian faith

Revisionist meaning they fall under the catagory of those who seek to rewrite history to fit what they "know."

 

[Annabel Lee]

I went to an Episcopalian Church before I returned to Catholicism.
I liked it a lot. But when I realized that I went because it reminded me of the Catholic Church I grew up in...That's when I decided to *rejoin* the Catholic Church.

 

[jukesk9]

Br. Max is hitting it right on the head with the New Age stuff. Rowan Williams also became a Druid this past summer. Had an elaborate ceremony and all. Now I ask, how can one be a Christian and a Druid?

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/08/06/1028157932440.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Hector Medina]

WOW,

So in a way their not really Protestant nor Catholic(just protest. 'cuase their not catholic) their just "The Church of England" like its own denomination.


Hector

 

[dignitized]

please note that I speak of the Anglican church as a WHOLE unit. There are very sincere and Godly segments of the greater Anglican Communion.

 

[isshinwhat]

I attended an Episcopal Church before I converted. It was the first church I had been to in years. It was a conservative parish, which was nice, but overall I found the Anglican communions generally to be too liberal for my taste. I wish they were all as conservative (not ordaining practicing lesbians as pastors or bishops) as St. Paul's here in town. It was a nice parish. In fact St. Paul's Episcopal and St. Rose of Lima Catholic Church (my parish) have a Bible study night together every week. They work well together, as do most of the Churches in the area. Father Wiatt was even asked by the local Presbyterian Church to give a talk at their Wednesday night prayer service. Things are, all in all, pretty good here between expressions of the Christian faith.

God Bless,

Neal

 

[dignitized]

isshin:

I wish that your experince with interdenominational relations was universal. \

 

[swalker]

Anglicans and Roman Catholics are alike in that they both accept the Nicene Creed as a statement of faith.

They are different in several areas.

1. Anglicans do not, as a rule, believe in pergatory.

2. Anglicans, as a rule, do NOT accept the role of the Virgin Mary as Mediator or intercessor.  They believe that Jesus is their only mediator and advocate. (Anglicans DO believe that Jesus was born of the Virgin Mary.)

3. In the ten commandments, Anglicans accept the Protestant set of commandments that contains the commandment, "Thou shalt not worship a graven image."

4.  Anglicans believe that they are members of the holy catholic Church.  Roman Catholics do NOT agree that Anglicans are members of the holy Catholic Church, because the two cannot agree on the meaning of "holy catholic," or "holy Catholic," whichever side you are on.

5. Anglicans do not agree with the Roman Catholic doctrine of Papal infallibility.  They do however believe that the Pope is the Roman Catholic Bishop of Rome. 

6. Anglicans are not asked to accept a doctrine that forbids abortion or birth control, as the Roman Catholics are asked to do as part of their faith. 

The main difference between Roman Catholic dogma and Anglicanism, is that Anglicans are free to interpret the Bible (with the guidance of the Holy Spirit) as long as they accept the Nicene Creed, the Apostle's Creed, that Jesus is their Savior, Lord, mediator, and advocate, and the promise of Baptism (that in Baptism they are crucified with Christ, who paid for their sins) they can be members of the Anglican Communion.

 This leaves room for many philosophies and interpretations of the Bible, and indeed leads to liberal and conservative versions of the Anglican communion throughout the world. 

In the Bible, Paul encourages Christians to Not become a stumbling block for anyone else's relationship with Christ. Christians are encouraged to NOT do things that offend new Christians, or Christians that insist on following the old Jewish law, (such as eating meat sacrificed to idols). This is the philosophy that the Anglican Church uses to form its doctrine.  To offend someone who is looking for salvation is a thing that Anglicans try very hard NOT to do.  They try to accept prople where they are, as indeed Jesus did when he spoke to prostitutes, tax collectors, and all sorts of sinners.   Anglicans believe that this is the right way to evangelize, to evangelize as Christ has shown by example.

How then, can the Roman Catholic Church  justify the Tradition of the Rosary, the Tradition of Papal infallability, and the Tradition of iconography, none of which are endorsed in the Bible? These offend many, yet the Roman Catholic Church embraces them, thus becoming a stumbling block for many who regard these practices as sinful. Surely this is NOT the TRUE CHURCH that Jesus and His apostles envisioned.

Jesus is LORD!  Accept Him into your heart today!

 

[kern]

Oh boy, another person who's going to show us the error of our ways.

Originally posted by swalker


3. In the ten commandments, Anglicans accept the Protestant set of commandments that contains the commandment, "Thou shalt not worship a graven image."

Are you saying that the Catholic church has removed this commandment? Then why is it in the Catechism? (sections 2129-2132 have the heading "You shall not make for yourself a graven image..."

How then, can the Roman Catholic Church  justify the Tradition of the Rosary, the Tradition of Papal infallability, and the Tradition of iconography, none of which are endorsed in the Bible? These offend many, yet the Roman Catholic Church embraces them, thus becoming a stumbling block for many who regard these practices as sinful. Surely this is NOT the TRUE CHURCH that Jesus and His apostles envisioned.

This is like saying that "everyone has sinned and will go to hell" offends many (which it does!!) therefore it should not be taught in any church because it is a "stumbling block".

Jesus is LORD!  Accept Him into your heart today!

OK, I'll do that.

-Chris

 

[Caedmon]

Originally posted by swalker
Jesus is LORD!  Accept Him into your heart today!

Mary is mother. Accept her as such -- as Jesus, hanging from the cross, instructed his beloved disciple -- today!

 

[seebs]

Originally posted by swalker


3. In the ten commandments, Anglicans accept the Protestant set of commandments that contains the commandment, "Thou shalt not worship a graven image."

HUH?!?

The ones I learned as a kid were the ones you seem to think are the "Catholic" ones, but I promise you, Lutherans are Protestants. Nailing stuff to doors, boo-yah.

The graven image thing is, quite clearly, part of "no other gods before me".

It is, of course, always interesting to compare these with, for instance, the Hebrew set. It is popular for people attacking Christianity to try to throw further doubt by comparing with the stuff listed in Exodus 34, but this is missing the point; that's just God taking an opportunity to make a speech. He's not repeating "the same" words, because we *already read those*.

Actually, our pastor, who was exceptionally good about pointing things out, pointed out that the "ten commandments" is a human name, not a thing we find in the Bible (at least, I can't find it), and that there are different ways of subdividing it. For instance, he pointed out the thing where some people treat all the coveting as a single commandment, and other people treat the graven image thing as part of "no other gods", and so on and so forth.

Obviously, given all the fluff over icons, it's clear that the question of "graven images" is a thing that has been debated. I think Exodus 34, and the golden calf, make it pretty clear that this is the same as "molten gods". The question is not "do we sometimes have physical symbols that help us focus our thoughts on God", but "are we worshipping symbols instead of God". I have not known Catholics who do the latter, but I have met people who worship a given Bible more than they worship God, IMHO.

 

[cenimo]

Within the Anglican Church there is "high church" and "low church"...
high church is conservative, structured Eucharist, "more Catholic than Catholic"...low church is liberal, looser

my wife and I attend an Anglican church...
so, when we first got there, my wife is asking a women about the church...they are standing in fron of a room where they do Morning Prayer and other things...in this room is a place to kneel and light candles, there are Oerhodox type icons on the wall, and outside the room is a large portrait of the virgin Mary.... in this setting, the woman says, " We like to consider ourselves Protestants"...


that's what we kind of like about it, you can "be" Catholic or Proestant...