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How Martin Luther Invented Sola Scriptura

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Luther rejected papal, conciliar and ecclesiastical infallibility and said that popes and ecumenical councils could err.

Sola Scriptura began when Martin Luther decided to deny the infallibility of the Church, ecumenical councils and the pope — i.e., claiming that they could err — thus leaving the Bible as the only infallible rule of faith.

The novelty wasn’t mentioned in Luther’s 95 Theses (posted Oct. 31, 1517). But Protestant Luther biographer Roland Bainton (Here I Stand) stated that in 1518 “Luther ... had further declared the pope and councils to be capable of error.” Then he reiterated and strengthened such claims during his 18-day Leipzig Disputation of July 1519, with Johann Eck. Bainton reports that Luther stated:

I assert that a council has sometimes erred and may sometimes err. Nor has a council authority to establish new articles of faith. A council cannot make divine right out of that which by nature is not divine right. Councils have contradicted each other, for the recent Lateran Council has reversed the claim of the councils of Constance and Basel that a council is above a pope. A simple layman armed with Scripture is to be believed above a pope or a council without it. ... I say that neither the Church nor the pope can establish articles of faith. These must come from Scripture. For the sake of Scripture, we should reject pope and councils.
In 1520, Luther expressly denied papal infallibility: “They play about with words before our very eyes, trying to persuade us that the pope cannot err in matters of faith, regardless of whether he is righteous or wicked.” Even more radically, he wrote, “If we are all priests ... why should we not also have the power to test and judge what is right or wrong in matters of faith?” And, “Popes, bishops, canons, and monks. God has not instituted these offices.” Accordingly, he wrote in March 1521:

This is my answer to those also who accuse me of rejecting all the holy teachers of the church. I do not reject them. But everyone, indeed, knows that at times they have erred, as men will; therefore, I am ready to trust them only when they give me evidence for their opinions from Scripture, which has never erred.

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Luther rejected papal, conciliar and ecclesiastical infallibility and said that popes and ecumenical councils could err.

Sola Scriptura began when Martin Luther decided to deny the infallibility of the Church, ecumenical councils and the pope — i.e., claiming that they could err — thus leaving the Bible as the only infallible rule of faith.

The novelty wasn’t mentioned in Luther’s 95 Theses (posted Oct. 31, 1517). But Protestant Luther biographer Roland Bainton (Here I Stand) stated that in 1518 “Luther ... had further declared the pope and councils to be capable of error.” Then he reiterated and strengthened such claims during his 18-day Leipzig Disputation of July 1519, with Johann Eck. Bainton reports that Luther stated:


In 1520, Luther expressly denied papal infallibility: “They play about with words before our very eyes, trying to persuade us that the pope cannot err in matters of faith, regardless of whether he is righteous or wicked.” Even more radically, he wrote, “If we are all priests ... why should we not also have the power to test and judge what is right or wrong in matters of faith?” And, “Popes, bishops, canons, and monks. God has not instituted these offices.” Accordingly, he wrote in March 1521:



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I actually agree partly with Luther, but also agree with the Catholic church. As a Catholic, we must be careful not to treat anyone as being sinless. No human institution is perfect, but it is best that we use faith first, scripture next. Then, works follows, as it helps to maintain our faith, cos without works, we have a higher probability of losing the faith (losing salvation).
 
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Sola Scriptura began when Martin Luther decided to deny the infallibility of the Church, ecumenical councils and the pope — i.e., claiming that they could err — thus leaving the Bible as the only infallible rule of faith.
Then how do you explain these guys:

Augustine of Hippo: "This Mediator (Jesus Christ), having spoken what He judged sufficient first by the prophets, then by His own lips, and afterwards by the apostles, has besides produced the scripture which is called canonical, which has Paramount Authority, and to which we yield assent in all matters of which we ought not to be ignorant, and yet cannot know of ourselves." (Augustine of Hippo, City of God, Book 11, Chapter 3)

Cyril of Jerusalem: This seal have thou ever on thy mind; which now by way of summary has been touched on in its heads, and if the Lord grant, shall hereafter be set forth according to our power, with Scripture-proofs. For concerning the divine and sacred Mysteries of the Faith, we ought not to deliver even the most casual remark without the Holy Scriptures: nor be drawn aside by mere probabilities and the artifices of argument. Do not then believe me because I tell thee these things, unless thou receive from the Holy Scriptures the proof of what is set forth: for this salvation, which is of our faith, is not by ingenious reasonings, but by proof from the Holy Scriptures (A Library of the Fathers of the Holy Catholic Church (Oxford: Parker, 1845), The Catechetical Lectures of S. Cyril 4.17).

Gregory of Nyssa: "The generality of men still fluctuate in their opinions about this, which are as erroneous as they are numerous. As for ourselves, if the Gentile philosophy, which deals methodically with all these points, were really adequate for a demonstration, it would certainly be superfluous to add a discussion on the soul to those speculations, but while the latter proceeded, on the subject of the soul, as far in the direction of supposed consequences as the thinker pleased, we are not entitled to such license, I mean that of affirming what we please; we make the Holy Scriptures the rule and the measure of every tenet (dogma); we necessarily fix our eyes upon that, and approve that alone which may be made to harmonize with the intention of those writings." (Philip Schaff and Henry Wace, Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers (Peabody: Hendrikson, 1995), Second Series: Volume V, Philosophical Works, On the Soul And the Resurrection, p. 439).

Gregory of Nyssa: Let the inspired Scriptures then be our umpire, and the vote of truth will be given to those whose dogmas are found to agree with the Divine words. (On the Holy Trinity NPNF, p. 327)

Basil the Great, Bishop of Caesarea: "Enjoying as you do the consolation of the Holy Scriptures, you stand in need neither of my assistance nor of that of anybody else to help you comprehend your duty. You have the all-sufficient counsel and guidance of the Holy Spirit to lead you to what is right" (Philip Schaff and Henry Wace, Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers (Peabody: Hendrikson, 1995), Second Series: Volume VIII, Basil: Letters and Select Works, Letter CCLXXXIII, p. 312).

Basil the Great: We are not content simply because this is the tradition of the Fathers. What is important is that the Fathers followed the meaning of the Scripture. (On the Holy Spirit, 7.16)

Augustine: This Mediator: [Jesus Christ], having spoken what He judged sufficient first by the prophets, then by His own lips, and afterwards by the apostles, has besides produced the Scripture which is called canonical, which has paramount authority, and to which we yield assent in all matters of which we ought not to be ignorant, and yet cannot know of ourselves. (City of God, book XI, Chapter 3, )

Augustine: Better far that I should read with certainty and persuasion of its truth the Holy Scripture, placed on the highest (even the heavenly) pinnacle of authority, and should, without questioning the trustworthiness of its statements, learn from it that men have been either, commended, or corrected, or condemned, than that, through fear of believing that by men, who, though of most praiseworthy excellence, were no more than men, actions deserving rebuke might sometimes be done, I should admit suspicions affecting the trustworthiness of the whole oracles of God. (Letters of St. Augustine, Letter 82.2.5)

Augustine: Many false Christs and false prophets shall arise, and shall do many signs and wonders, that they may deceive, if it were possible, the very elect: behold, I have told you before. This shows that the established authority of Scripture must outweigh every other; for it derives new confirmation from the progress of events which happen, as Scripture proves, in fulfillment of the predictions made so long before their occurrence. (Reply to Faustus the Manichaean 13.5)

Augustine: Neither dare one agree with catholic bishops if by chance they err in anything, but the result that their opinion is against the canonical Scriptures of God. (De unitate ecclesiae, 10)

Irenaeus: We have learned from none others the plan of our salvation, than from those through whom the gospel has come down to us, which they did at one time proclaim in public, and, at a later period, by the will of God, handed down to us in the Scriptures, to be the ground and pillar of our faith. (Against Heresies 3.1.1)

Clement of Alexandria: But those who are ready to toil in the most excellent pursuits, will not desist from the search after truth, till they get the demonstration from the Scriptures themselves. (The Stromata, 7:16)

Athanasius: The holy and inspired Scriptures are fully sufficient for the proclamation of the truth. (Against the Heathen, 1:3 )

Ambrose: For how can we adopt those things which we do not find in the holy Scriptures? (On the Duties of the Clergy, 1:23:102)
 
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Catholics are not Sola Scriptura. We believe in Sacred Scripture and Tradition. Your quotes do not prove Sola Scriptura. The Church operates from a Scriptural basis and also take into account early Christian History. The Word of God also includes oral teaching. The Word of God also includes the oral teaching of prophets and apostles whether they were recorded later in Scripture or not.

An example:
“For twenty-three years . . . the word of the Lord has come to me and I have spoken to you again and again . . . ‘But you did not listen to me,’ declares the Lord. . . . Therefore the Lord Almighty says this: ‘Because you have not listened to my words. . . .’” (Jer. 25:3, 7-8 [NIV]).

“When you received the word of God which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men but as what it really is, the word of God” (1 Thess. 2:13).

“Keep away from any brother who is living in idleness and not in accord with the tradition that you received from us” (2 Thess. 3:6).


There was all sorts of tradition and authority exercised through out Scripture and Christian history.

The Bible does not teach Sola Scriptura in fact, it does the opposite.

Scripture is sacred and all traditions are based on it but if you exclude or ignore one without the other you are going to find yourself chasing your tail when it comes to the big picture.
 
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For people who sincerely want to learn:


In this episode Trent shows why it’s a bad idea for Protestants to cite the Church fathers in defense of sola scriptura.


 
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