How many of you think there was a World Wide Flood? please vote.

anffyddwyr · Jul 19, 2007

We have written thousands and thousands of words for and against there ever being a World Wide Flood,
so don't write anything, just vote.
Do you or don't you think there was a 'World Wide Flood'?

anffyddwyr · Jul 19, 2007

anffyddwyr · Jul 20, 2007

168 people have viewed it but only 25 have voted.
Shy are we?

Chalnoth · Jul 20, 2007

anffyddwyr said:
168 people have viewed it but only 25 have voted.
Shy are we?

I don't think "views" records unique views. Many may be the same people looking at the thread multiple times.

anffyddwyr · Jul 20, 2007

Chalnoth said:
I don't think "views" records unique views. Many may be the same people looking at the thread multiple times.

Thank you, I didn't know that.

anffyddwyr · Jul 20, 2007

Only one creationists????

AuraTwilight · Jul 20, 2007

Looks like the Pro side is getting pwned.

Also, just because someone doesn't think there was a World Wide Flood doesn't mean they aren't Creationists. People seem to think that term exclusively means total agreement with the entire Bible.

anffyddwyr · Jul 20, 2007

AuraTwilight said:
Looks like the Pro side is getting pwned.

Also, just because someone doesn't think there was a World Wide Flood doesn't mean they aren't Creationists. People seem to think that term exclusively means total agreement with the entire Bible.

I was under the impression the flood was the main platform of the creationist.

AuraTwilight · Jul 20, 2007

The main platform of CREATIONISM is CREATION. The Flood was just God dumping water everywhere and telling Noah to salvage some stuff. That's not creation, that's just rebooting everything with a whole lot of rain.

imind · Jul 20, 2007

The Flood was just God dumping water everywhere and telling Noah to salvage some stuff. That's not creation, that's just rebooting everything with a whole lot of rain.

lol. nice description.

Loudmouth · Jul 20, 2007

Wide World of Sports? Yes.

World Wide Flood? No.

anffyddwyr · Jul 20, 2007

AuraTwilight said:
The main platform of CREATIONISM is CREATION. The Flood was just God dumping water everywhere and telling Noah to salvage some stuff. That's not creation, that's just rebooting everything with a whole lot of rain.

But the flood is the best story in the bible, without it we wouldn't have the grand canyon.
And if that's not true how can we be sure the other things in the bible are true?

Seems every time they turn around, someone is knocking their beliefs or trying to disprove them.

But I don't suppose they are bothered, because God said it was true and that's all that matters.
so mock away you disbelievers, if God is for us who can be against us.

Wonderful words, don't mean a thing, but wonderful none the less.

Chalnoth · Jul 20, 2007

AuraTwilight said:
The main platform of CREATIONISM is CREATION. The Flood was just God dumping water everywhere and telling Noah to salvage some stuff. That's not creation, that's just rebooting everything with a whole lot of rain.

While accurate, Creationism frequently stems from a particular belief as to the status of the text in the Bible which requires that they take the account of the flood just as literally as the six-day creation, at least here in the US where YEC is pretty widespread.

AuraTwilight · Jul 21, 2007

But the flood is the best story in the bible, without it we wouldn't have the grand canyon.
And if that's not true how can we be sure the other things in the bible are true?

First of all, we have the Grand Canyon because of earthquakes and Tectonic plates. Where in the Bible does it say "And so the Flood left behind a great fault, and the Lord named it the Grand Canyon"?

Anyway, I agree. If the flood isn't true, how can ANY of the Bible be true? Simple answer: It isn't.

But I don't suppose they are bothered, because God said it was true and that's all that matters.
so mock away you disbelievers, if God is for us who can be against us.

Can you prove God is for you? With you just saying so, I can say that the Easter Bunny likes me more.

aspiringchef · Jul 21, 2007

Definitely. I'm for theistic evolution, but believe the flood took place, however, the details may have been a bit skewed.

DrkSdBls · Jul 21, 2007

AuraTwilight said:
First of all, we have the Grand Canyon because of earthquakes and Tectonic plates.

That's news to me.

Here I've always thought it was Carved from a River flowing for millions of years.

sbvera13 · Jul 21, 2007

Recent research I've discovered suggest to me that the ancient Hebrews viewed their particular section of the world and that it extended no further.

http://sol.sci.uop.edu/~jfalward/ThreeTieredUniverse.htm said:
The earth, with Canaan at its centre (Ps 74.12), was believed to be one mass of land (cf the ends of the earth (Ps 65.5) or its four corners (Isa 11.12)) surrounded by an ocean

If you know that they were writing from this point of view, then a massive flood of the Black Sea (as there is evidence for) would in fact be a worldwide flood, from their point of view. They had no concept of "global" because they had no concept of the earth as a globe, so it is our mistake in applying the stories of the bible on a global scale that has rendered it wrong. When it was originally written, and to the people that wrote it, it may very much have been true.

sbvera13 · Jul 21, 2007

DrkSdBls said:
That's news to me.

Here I've always thought it was Carved from a River flowing for millions of years.

The upward movement of the tectonic plate, pushing against the downward erosion of the river, is why it is so much deeper than any other canyon- the walls literally rose up above the river. So it's a cross between the two.

karzma · Jul 21, 2007

Yes, I believe in a worldwide flood. It was caused when the planet Nibiru travelled so close to Terra during its orbit that the gravity of Nibiru caused the water on Terra to move slightly towards Nibiru. This effect was like the moons effect on our oceans and seas which cause the high and low tides; however the high tide effect that Nibiru's gravity had on Terra was so high that the oceans were actually rising above the continents; and as Terra spinned on its axis this meant that the water would have washed over all the land mass of Terra multiple times over multiple days until Nibiru moved far enough away on its orbit to the point where it was no longer close enough for its gravity to have such an effect on Terra's water.

This was a once in a universes lifetime event. The calculations show that even in billions of years of future orbitations of Terra and Nibiru, Nibiru will never pass close enough to Terra to cause this to happen again.

Yggdrasil · Jul 22, 2007

There was no flood. There is zero evidence of one, no matter how much pseudoscience creationists want to throw at you.

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