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How many moons does earth have?

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Two apparently and the 2nd one is called Cruithne. Discovered sometime in 1997. wow.

http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...on_991029.html


Earth has a second moon, of sorts, and could have many others, according to three astronomers who did calculations to describe orbital motions at gravitational balance points in space that temporarily pull asteroids into bizarre orbits near our planet.

The 3-mile-wide (5-km) satellite, which takes 770 years to complete a horseshoe-shaped orbit around Earth, is called Cruithne and will remain in a suspended state around Earth for at least 5,000 years.

Cruithne, discovered in 1986, and then found in 1997 to have a highly eccentric orbit, cannot be seen by the naked eye, but scientists working at Queen Mary and Westfield College in London were intrigued enough with its peregrinations to come up with mathematical models to describe its path.

That led them to theorize that the model could explain the movement of other objects captured at the gravitational balance points that exist between all planets and the sun.

"We found new dynamical channels through which free asteroids become temporarily moons of Earth and stay there from a few thousand years to several tens of thousands of years," said Fathi Namouni, one of the researchers, now at Princeton University.

"Eventually these same channels provide the moons with escape routes. So the main difference between the moon (weve always known) and the new moons is that the latter are temporary -- they come and go, but they stay for a very long time before they leave."

Astronomers have long known that the solar system is full, relatively speaking, of asteroids.

Most orbit the sun in a belt between Mars and Jupiter, but a handful cross Earth's orbital path -- an imaginary curve through space along which our planet travels around the sun.

Namouni and his colleagues discovered several new types of orbital motion, which showed that some asteroids that cross Earths path may be trapped in orbits caused by the gravitational dance between Earth and the sun.

The work was published in a recent issue of Physical Review Letters.
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To be fair it does call it "a moon of sorts" which suggests it isn't a true moon. But the speculation that the asteroid then moves into orbit of the earth is wrong from what I read on wiki, but rather that it's orbit around the sun is influenced a lot by the earths gravitational field when it moves near to the earth.
 
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That's no moon... It's a space station.

Close. It's the colony ship which brought us here. Today it serves as a space station where the angels watch over us... :doh:

Honestly though, some refer to Luna and Tellus as a dual planet system due to Luna's size. So the answer could be none. Depending on whether or not you consider Cruithne a moon.



Interesting stuff though :)
 
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Ah, so it is a planetoid that looks like it is orbiting the La Grange point. That makes more sense.

I am disappointed in Space.com, they can do better then that article.

I wish there were more people out there with your critical thinking skills. From my perspective, a great many articles about evolution are similar to this article.
 
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I wish there were more people out there with your critical thinking skills. From my perspective, a great many articles about evolution are similar to this article.

Indeed there are a lot of "simplifications" in popular articles on any area of science. Thankfully that isn't the kind of level of understanding the scientists are at.

As long as people confuse the "pop-sci" with the real science, then you can claim that anything is poorly explained.

Again, thankfully the scientists are doing the real science. That's why it's important to make people more aware of how science is really done, teach them the stuff well. And most importantly, make sure that pseudosciences like "Creationism" and "ID" are not there to dilute the pool for those simpletons who think that just because an idea is "out on the table" it has de facto reason to be considered when compared against stronger, real science.

"Teach the controversy" is a cop-out for people who don't understand the level of controversy or the actual information that is being discussed.
 
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I wish there were more people out there with your critical thinking skills. From my perspective, a great many articles about evolution are similar to this article.

The difference of how astronomy was described in this article and how I saw it is not me disagreeing with the scientists, it is me disagreeing with the way it was reported. How you got from that to your disagreement with evolution I don't know.

I was disagreeing with the way it was described, not the content. Somehow I think you would disagree with the content of a evolution article, not the way is was described.
 
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The difference of how astronomy was described in this article and how I saw it is not me disagreeing with the scientists, it is me disagreeing with the way it was reported. How you got from that to your disagreement with evolution I don't know.

I was disagreeing with the way it was described, not the content. Somehow I think you would disagree with the content of a evolution article, not the way is was described.

I'm observing that you went through the same exercise regarding articles that I do. Most journal articles and media stories report on the analysis and conclusions of a given study, rather than the data and methodology. I rarely disagree with the methodology or the data collected by scientists (sometimes on rare occasions I smell fraud), and I much more frequently disagree with the analysis and conclusions of an article. Creationists and evolutionists tend to interpret the same data in radically different ways. Same goes with other controversial issues, like global warming. This is vividly illustrated in a recent global warming thread I started. I appreciate that you critically analyzed the moon article, and I hope you do the same with creation/evolution.
 
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I'm observing that you went through the same exercise regarding articles that I do. Most journal articles and media stories report on the analysis and conclusions of a given study, rather than the data and methodology. I rarely disagree with the methodology or the data collected by scientists (sometimes on rare occasions I smell fraud), and I much more frequently disagree with the analysis and conclusions of an article. Creationists and evolutionists tend to interpret the same data in radically different ways. Same goes with other controversial issues, like global warming. This is vividly illustrated in a recent global warming thread I started. I appreciate that you critically analyzed the moon article, and I hope you do the same with creation/evolution.

Except I didn't go in with a preconceived notion when I read it. You seam to want to reinforce your religious beliefs where evolution is considered, something I gave up after my second high school biology class.

As for the globule warming thread, while I still have questions about it, it is still happening and it looks like we are contributing to it. There are some big changes to the Earth coming because of it and we would be foolish to say it is not happening.
 
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