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mont974x4 said:

I just can't get why a person who professes to be a Christian, and does have knowledge of the Bible, can claim that someone who prays to a rock is praying to God and not a god..especially given what Scripture says?

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stumpjumper said:

I don't know of anyone who prays to a rock or thinks the sun is God, though.

I do know a couple of Hindus (my neighbors who have a kid my kid's age), a unitarian (down the street the other way), and a couple of Jews (they live across from the unitarians ) very well and I would rather use those examples since they are much more realistic.

Are they praying to the same God I am but just in different ways and with their own different beliefs about who God happens to be?

I would have to say yes. I see no reason why I would say otherwise. I certainly think that some of their beliefs are wrong but I think God is bigger than all of us...

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mont974x4 said:

With the Jews, I would agree with you. With the rest, not a chance. When looking at the character, attributes, actions, and requirements of the deity they are praying to I have to maintain that they are pryang to a god....not God. Just as the Israelites were worshipping a lump of gold made to look like a calf...not God.

What you're suggesting is that good little buddhists and muslims can be saved without accepting the truth that God is and what His Word says.

There's a reason why we are called converts.

I might as well pray to my truck, if I follow your logic.

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mont974x4 said:

With the Jews, I would agree with you. With the rest, not a chance. When looking at the character, attributes, actions, and requirements of the deity they are praying to I have to maintain that they are pryang to a god....not God. Just as the Israelites were worshipping a lump of gold made to look like a calf...not God.

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What you're suggesting is that good little buddhists and muslims can be saved without accepting the truth that God is and what His Word says.

There's a reason why we are called converts.

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I might as well pray to my truck, if I follow your logic.

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stumpjumper said:

What criteria are you using to separate Jews from say Hindus?

Why are Christians and Jews worshipping the same God but not say Christians and Hindus or Christians and Muslims?

Jews don't believe in the trinity anymore than Muslims do.




I think non-Christians can be saved, yes. I don't know if they necessarily will be saved but I'm not going to limit God's grace.



Why would you want to do that?

Regardless, what do you make of the story of the Canaanite woman?

[BIBLE]Matthew 15:21-28[/BIBLE]

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mont974x4 said:

The woman knew who Christ was and recognized Him as Lord....muslims and hindus, and people who worship the sun, or pray to trucks don't even come close.


However, since you have admitted that you don't believe God's Word...that non-Christians can be saved, I have nothing else to say to you, knock the dust from my sandals.

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LittleLambofJesus said:

Can you clarify what you mean by "with the Jews I agree"? Thanks.

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mont974x4 said:

The woman knew who Christ was and recognized Him as Lord....muslims and hindus, and people who worship the sun, or pray to trucks don't even come close.

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However, since you have admitted that you don't believe God's Word...that non-Christians can be saved, I have nothing else to say to you, knock the dust from my sandals.

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stumpjumper said:

Nobody bothered to address this post so I will ask it again:

How about a Hindu whom you see in meditative prayer? They are giving thanks to God and petitioning God to lead them in this life.

Is the Triune God not listening to this prayer? Is God not aware that this Hiindu is praying and asking to be led from darkness to light and seeking peace?

The Gayatri Mantra:

Lead Us From the Unreal To Real,
Lead Us From Darkness To Light,
Lead Us From Death To Immortality,
Aum (the universal sound of God)
Let There Be Peace Peace Peace.

Is God unaware of the hairs on that Hindu's head?

How is the above worship and prayer not being presented to the only God that exists?

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