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How is it consistent to criticize the left for hating America AND not having an objective morality ?
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<blockquote data-quote="2PhiloVoid" data-source="post: 77116287" data-attributes="member: 167101"><p>As I said. You've mistaken me for someone else. Perhaps you weren't listening or paying attention? I haven't said anything about a universal moral standard.....yet. I have said that I think there is an Unwritten Universal Moral Principle. That is all. A moral principle alone is obviously not a moral rule, let alone a universally substantiated system of absolute implication. It is a simple principle. A "standard," however, requires a moral authority and a humanly recognizable cognition about that authority. It's this second part that I'm unable to directly produce and to which I defer to various ethicists as to its phenonemonal nature and finally, to the likes of Jesus.</p><p></p><p>But with my <strong>UUMP</strong> in tow, you see where your moral quandary is, though, don't you? You should.</p><p></p><p>We're not just talking about aesthetics here: that is, were not "simply" talking about whether a person likes or dislikes some very, very unpleasant experience in the same way that we'd describe our like or dislike of eating chocolate ice cream.</p><p></p><p>No, we're talking about semantics and actual demonstrable applications about the principle I've just briefly described above, applications that really shouldn't require us to watch a movie like <em>Clockwork Orange</em> or have to appeal to other such additional more artificial "lessons" in order to recognize the principle. Life experience and history should be enough, if we're still sane.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="2PhiloVoid, post: 77116287, member: 167101"] As I said. You've mistaken me for someone else. Perhaps you weren't listening or paying attention? I haven't said anything about a universal moral standard.....yet. I have said that I think there is an Unwritten Universal Moral Principle. That is all. A moral principle alone is obviously not a moral rule, let alone a universally substantiated system of absolute implication. It is a simple principle. A "standard," however, requires a moral authority and a humanly recognizable cognition about that authority. It's this second part that I'm unable to directly produce and to which I defer to various ethicists as to its phenonemonal nature and finally, to the likes of Jesus. But with my [B]UUMP[/B] in tow, you see where your moral quandary is, though, don't you? You should. We're not just talking about aesthetics here: that is, were not "simply" talking about whether a person likes or dislikes some very, very unpleasant experience in the same way that we'd describe our like or dislike of eating chocolate ice cream. No, we're talking about semantics and actual demonstrable applications about the principle I've just briefly described above, applications that really shouldn't require us to watch a movie like [I]Clockwork Orange[/I] or have to appeal to other such additional more artificial "lessons" in order to recognize the principle. Life experience and history should be enough, if we're still sane. [/QUOTE]
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