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I want to know if you think that people need to freedom to make their own mind up about moral problems. I can understand, and agree, that children need to be instructed. But what happens when they become adults? Do you think that someone should tell their 40 year old daughter what she can and cannot do?Not relevant.
You just said what the basis was. It’s feelings. Ultimately feelings are the basis for everything we do, including search for things more “legitimate” to base our actions on.You’ll believe what lines up with your feelings at any given time. You still have no basis for right or wrong.
And how is your Bible any different? According to the Bible, isn't right vs wrong based on what God feels is right or wrong?You’ll believe what lines up with your feelings at any given time. You still have no basis for right or wrong.
This is beyond nonsensical. This thread is over 500 posts long and many of them have explained exactly where secular morality comes from. How in heaven's name can you come up with such a statement? It defies belief...You’ll believe what lines up with your feelings at any given time. You still have no basis for right or wrong.
Still not relevant to the point I made.I want to know if you think that people need to freedom to make their own mind up about moral problems. I can understand, and agree, that children need to be instructed. But what happens when they become adults? Do you think that someone should tell their 40 year old daughter what she can and cannot do?
That’s not the discussion. Go back to what I said at the beginning.This is beyond nonsensical. This thread is over 500 posts long and many of them have explained exactly where secular morality comes from. How in heaven's name can you come up with such a statement? It defies belief...
Do you have a conscience? Does it guide you as to what you should and shouldn't do? Do you look at the facts of any given matter before you make a decision? Do you listen to those whose opinions you trust? Do you empathise with other people? Do you consider the well being of other people? Do you make conscious decisions about what you consider to be right and wrong?
Well, gosh. Me too!
Who would have thought that we reach moral decisions in exactly the same way? I don't know about you, but I'm astonished. Really astonished I say. Not that that is the case. But that after hundreds of posts and countless threads you still don't understand it.
That’s not the discussion. Go back to what I said at the beginning.
Not everybody comes to logic by reading books; for some it's just a matter of common sense.
No, it’s not. But let’s find out. Is it wrong to shoot your neighbor for letting his dog poop in your yard? If so, why?This is what you said:
'You’ll believe what lines up with your feelings at any given time. You still have no basis for right or wrong.'
That is abject nonsense.
No, it’s not. But let’s find out. Is it wrong to shoot your neighbor for letting his dog poop in your yard? If so, why?
Of course it's wrong. I hope you can say why. I gave you all the reasons. Is it that you don't understand any of them? I'll repeat what I said:No, it’s not. But let’s find out. Is it wrong to shoot your neighbor for letting his dog poop in your yard? If so, why?
You really seem to have an obsession with this scenario, but the response of force is not proportionate.
A more realistic scenario would be is it wrong for a father to kill those responsible for his son's death?
Based on what you’ve said, someone else’s conscience could say it’s okay. Would they be just as right as you?Of course it's wrong. I hope you can say why. I gave you all the reasons. Is it that you don't understand any of them? I'll repeat what I said:
Do you have a conscience? Does it guide you as to what you should and shouldn't do? Do you look at the facts of any given matter before you make a decision? Do you listen to those whose opinions you trust? Do you empathise with other people? Do you consider the well being of other people? Do you make conscious decisions about what you consider to be right and wrong?
So my conscience says it's wrong. It guides me as to what I shouldn't do. I looked at the facts and decided that crap in my garden didn't justify taking a human life. I have listened over the years to very many people who have explained the value of human life and that it shouldn't be taken lightly. I empathise with people so I would understand that my neighbour loves his life and wouldn't want to lose it. And his family would be grief stricken if I killed him. I consider his well being in what I do. And I made a conscious decision that all I needed to do was fix the hole in my fence.
Now really, what on earth is so difficult to understand about any of that? Are you a reasonable person? Because all those are reasonable positions to hold. So it's really got me beat why you can't follow them. Honestly, I'm totally at a loss.
You really seem to have an obsession with this scenario, but the response of force is not proportionate.
A more realistic scenario would be is it wrong for a father to kill those responsible for his son's death?
Of course it's wrong. I hope you can say why. I gave you all the reasons. Is it that you don't understand any of them? I'll repeat what I said:
Do you have a conscience? Does it guide you as to what you should and shouldn't do? Do you look at the facts of any given matter before you make a decision? Do you listen to those whose opinions you trust? Do you empathise with other people? Do you consider the well being of other people? Do you make conscious decisions about what you consider to be right and wrong?
So my conscience says it's wrong. It guides me as to what I shouldn't do. I looked at the facts and decided that crap in my garden didn't justify taking a human life. I have listened over the years to very many people who have explained the value of human life and that it shouldn't be taken lightly. I empathise with people so I would understand that my neighbour loves his life and wouldn't want to lose it. And his family would be grief stricken if I killed him. I consider his well being in what I do. And I made a conscious decision that all I needed to do was fix the hole in my fence.
Now really, what on earth is so difficult to understand about any of that? Are you a reasonable person? Because all those are reasonable positions to hold. So it's really got me beat why you can't follow them. Honestly, I'm totally at a loss.
Mkay.It's a Monty Python skit.
No, I actually have a basis for my morality.You are no different.
Yes, I do.Neither do you.
But answering your question does depend upon certain factors and contexts that we all have to fully take into account.
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