How Is Creationism Relevant?

[Floodnut]

Great posts. I would just add that I am more concerned about the way TEs interpret Scripture than any of the other issues. Their interpretation limits God to using the knowledge and worldview of the writer. God plainly refuted that when He had prophets fortell future events. He even said to use it as a test of a true prophet. The the Scripture becomes for them the word of men instead of the Word of God.

Yet who is to say that the writers did NOT in fact have correct knowledge? I would think that the actual original writers of the Toledot of Genesis (the specific eleven sections of the complete unified book), I would think those writers KNEW that the world was round and the nature of the planet and its biology. AND through conversations with God and conversations between generations spanning hundreds of years, I would think their KNOWLEDGE and worldview was CORRECT.

 

[timlamb]

One of the coolest things about the promises of the New Testament is that we are promised a walk with Jesus and the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

So, what does creationism have to do with this walk?

And, perhaps more fundamentally, is anyone walking with us? To our perception, there is a big difference between the promise of a walk with Jesus and His actual presence. I think of the road to Emmaus often. If He is present, we are next to clueless about it.

In the beatitudes, we are told "blessed are the sorrowful." We don't seek sorrow, but we either weep with God for His reasons, or we weep for ourselves over the mess we have made with the help of our neighbors.

Similarly, as much as I am quite ready to jettison all of the common sense that leads to an evolutionary view (and assumed here for the sake of argument), common sense should also be inevitable. It is either God's, or it is ours. What is it?

This is a loaded question and vague at best. But no more vague than what that presense of Jesus usually is.

Creationism is vital, no, essential to our Chriatian walk. It demonstrates the purposeful thoughtfull way God created us. Nothing haphazard or by chance. He had it all planned when we were created right down to our salvation. We are here for a reason and there is a perfect will for our lives and we have a choise to make. We are not an experiment of God's or the result of the chance workings of nature, God was there in the beginning and will be there as promised for the final day when all will be fulfilled.

We did not begin as anything but the image of the living God, and He has been with us all the way.

 

[busterdog]

Yet who is to say that the writers did NOT in fact have correct knowledge? I would think that the actual original writers of the Toledot of Genesis (the specific eleven sections of the complete unified book), I would think those writers KNEW that the world was round and the nature of the planet and its biology. AND through conversations with God and conversations between generations spanning hundreds of years, I would think their KNOWLEDGE and worldview was CORRECT.

What about the word "remnant" don't we (they) understand? Isn't the peculiar nature of Israel's knowledge the point? (In part.)

 

[busterdog]

Creationism is vital, no, essential to our Chriatian walk. It demonstrates the purposeful thoughtfull way God created us. Nothing haphazard or by chance. He had it all planned when we were created right down to our salvation. We are here for a reason and there is a perfect will for our lives and we have a choise to make. We are not an experiment of God's or the result of the chance workings of nature, God was there in the beginning and will be there as promised for the final day when all will be fulfilled.

We did not begin as anything but the image of the living God, and He has been with us all the way.

You could argue that "purpose" is demonstrated in evolution.

I kind of like the God who is more hands-on in the out-working, however. I think that is also His purpose -- to be hands-on in all of what you reference. The God of evolution is a bit obscure and distant to my view.

 

[FallingWaters]

... The God of evolution is a bit obscure and distant to my view.

'I'm confused.
Evolution has a God?

 

[busterdog]

'I'm confused.
Evolution has a God?

Well, God in the view of theological evolution.

Some of those folks I am sure believe in the intervention of God, here and now. Some believe in a literal parting of the Red Sea, the healing of the blind, etc. However, as we have discusse, I just see a major disconnect between a God who moderates evolution, sitting back, letting stuff die, and a God who heals.