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I heard something recently about authority (from Romans....correct me if I'm relaying it improperly).....that only those UNDER authority...HAVE authority.......as along with that, trust is formed, and authority flows from trust....trust flows from truth. Even Jesus credited His authority to the Father.
Obviously, I didn't relay that thought very well.Do we have authority over God since we are under his authority?
Obviously, I didn't relay that thought very well.
What I meant was....all authority flows down from God, and those that are in submission to Him, then have that. If someone steps out from being under submission to Him....they have lost that authority---they are going their own way...and the sense of trust is lost.
That's it.......we can sense (or SHOULD sense, anyway) when someone is pulling us away from God. That's what I find as so telling, how the modern theology wants to get us away from feelings, and is all about "doing the right thing". Ignoring feelings is exactly what allows deception to occur....and then you have TWO people away from God. That is just why the Bible tells us that two are stronger than one.....if one falls (and that can be EITHER spouse)....the other will be there to help them back up.I agree with this...as a wife I would not follow my husband's leadership if he was leading me away from God and not actively seeking the Lord's will in his and in our family's life. When I believe that he is, I am much more likely to be his willing partner, as our big-picture goals will be the same and we are ultimately looking to the same authority for guidance.
Ultimate example of a real man is Jesus. And as much as this will be denied I guarantee that most women would not be happy being married to someone who accurately reflects all aspects of Jesus nature. Sure they all want the sacrificial love part but that's by no means all or even most of who He was/is. As soon as we start talking about the direct or confrontational part of Jesus nature we get all sorts of "reasons" why we can't be that way ranging from the plainly false notion that Jesus was that way only rarely or as a last resort, to "we don't have His perfect discernment so we can't know when we should act that way."
The talk of wielding authority like a spoiled child though tells me that I'm already being heard as saying something that hasn't even been brought up so I'm out. Have fun.
The bold part is extremely ironic to me. I don;t think that many women take issue with a confrontational man. What does happen quite regularly, however, is that people including women, due to social engineering, take HUGE issues with a woman being confrontational. Remember, Christ isn't just who men are to mirror. Christ is also who women are to mirror, as well.
The bold part is extremely ironic to me. I don;t think that many women take issue with a confrontational man. What does happen quite regularly, however, is that people including women, due to social engineering, take HUGE issues with a woman being confrontational. Remember, Christ isn't just who men are to mirror. Christ is also who women are to mirror, as well.
Who says, "meekness" is femine, though? What is your definition of "meekness"....Chaz?
Who says Jesus was even "soft"? I wouldn't use that term....loving, but not "soft".
Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon the face of the earth. – Numbers 12:3 (KJV)
Exactly. Wasn't it Moses that was credited as being the "meekest man"? Reading about Moses's life, I wouldn't equate him with feminine.
ETA: It was Moses....I just looked it up...
Meekness is strength under control. So the opposite of meekness would be strength out of control. Or basically a lack of self control.
I heard something recently about authority (from Romans....correct me if I'm relaying it improperly).....that only those UNDER authority...HAVE authority.......as along with that, trust is formed, and authority flows from trust....trust flows from truth. Even Jesus credited His authority to the Father.
Very important distinction there.Therefore, respect and obedience go together; without respect you may get compliant behaviour, but that is not the same thing as willing obedience.
Besides the control part being the missing element.....the other missing element could be the strength. So, you could have weakness........which is often equated with "meekness".....but, it's actually the opposite.I would agree with that. would you not agree that strength out of control is usually coupled with pride?
Besides the control part being the missing element.....the other missing element could be the strength. So, you could have weakness........which is often equated with "meekness".....but, it's actually the opposite.
Since hardly anyone wants to display their weakness to the world...out of pride.....weakness is masqueraded as something else---aggression. It's all entangled.....like a ball of yarn.....because, often..."aggression" is equated to strength. Again.....another opposite.
Besides the control part being the missing element.....the other missing element could be the strength. So, you could have weakness........which is often equated with "meekness".....but, it's actually the opposite.
Since hardly anyone wants to display their weakness to the world...out of pride.....weakness is masqueraded as something else---aggression. It's all entangled.....like a ball of yarn.....because, often..."aggression" is equated to strength. Again.....another opposite.
The other "control" is God-controlled, instead of self-controlled. IOW...to be completely submitted to God...and that is just what Jesus was ("I do nothing apart from my Father's will").....just where our aim SHOULD be.Meekness is strength under control. So the opposite of meekness would be strength out of control. Or basically a lack of self control.
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