How I know there is no God

DoubtingThomas29 said:

Here is my point:

A person who we would call Joe Schmo who lived in Ancient Rome can hide from the knowledge of the human race very easily. He is just one person in a sea of others who really had no reason to be remembered more than the next guy.

With someone like Jesus Christ, that is like trying to hide a ten foot green giant who was running around ancient rome for three years. If the son of God really would have been walking around ancient Rome who was trying to gain followers, there would be all kinds of evidence. There would be historical accounts of Jesus and records of the miracles of Jesus.

You just can't hide something like that. It is almost like we are being told to believe these healings were all done in back alleys with no way to verify the healings. The sad fact is really we have no good reason to believe Jesus Christ was the son of God healing people in ancient rome, because after all christianity was an oppressed cult for over three hundred years. The fact is, all of rome would have left some record of Jesus had he rally had been there for three years, such as a mass exodus to Palestine for the free meals and healings. However there is no such record of that.

That is proof enough for me, that the son of God is not Jesus Christ.

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DoubtingThomas29 said:

Dear Daily Blessings,

I think your missing something which I'll explain in a later post, but think about this:

How do you know there wasn't a ten foot green giant running around ancient rome smashing people over the head for a three year period, and then wisked off the planet by a space ship from an alien race who were apprehending an escaped fugative from their planet? How do we know for a fact that never happened apostori how do we know that?

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0n3 said:

And I suppose Evolution is all the more probable, explainable, and likely to have happened than the miracles found in the Bible? If God had to fit within His creation and follow the laws of nature that really wouldn't say anything about Him would it? That's why miracles are called super-natural. How do you explain away healings that happen to people today that can't be explained medically and things like that?

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DoubtingThomas29 said:

Speaking of the Old Testament, remember the story about Noah's Ark? Well we can prove that that story is a fairy tale, just by looking st the fact there are trillions of species of insects on the planet and to hve two of every kind of insect on a boat is simply impossible.

Therefore Noah's Ark is a made up story.

QED

This does in fact mean, we cannot read the fantastic stories of the bible and just believe them seriously, because there is at least one story that is completely false.

Also the story about the Sun stopping in te sky, that could not happen either without jolting the Earth and killing everybody. The story about that lady that looked back at a city to see it go down in flames, the bible says she turned into a pillar of salt, but tha is impossible because matter cannot be created or destroyed and also of E=mC^2, her atoms had to go somewhere, they just couldn't turn into NaCl, Sodium Chloride.

Then in the New Testament there is more stories that are hard to believe, look at the evidence. Look at the fact that Christianity was an oppressed cult for hundreds of years before Emperor Constatine decided to convert the Empire to christianity.

There is tons of evidence that the christia story is another made up religion by men. The bible is written by men, not God.

If God does not exist, then there is in fact a absence of evidence, which is what we have, our world only makes sense we assume God is imaginary, when you look at the Hindu Religion, the Muslim religion and the Christian religion you are looking at a collection of stories that about four billion people adhere to, and they are all right about the other person's religion. Religion is man made, there is no God, and we are merly sophisticated animals wandering the planet, some wondering who made the Earth, and still others wondering what made the Earth.

It wasn't a who that made you and me, it was a what that made us, that what is the natural process called evolution.

Think about it.

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NavyGuy7 said:

And being a writer, I spend my time mostly in the RPG section of this site. I like to argue sometimes, though, so I come here too. It's interesting what people will argue about. I hope to become an author one day. A writer of fiction, of course, but still an author nonetheless. We'll see where life takes me, I suppose.

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DoubtingThomas29 said:

I feel that we can know apostori there is no God, all though we can't rule him out all together. I feel that a person can't believe religion is man mad and still believe there is a God. There maybe a remote chance that there is a creator, but really a God would have to be one we could have a personal relationship with and he would have to be all loving and all powerful, which obviously isn't the case when you look at the evidence.

This is how I know there is no God, I look at all the religions that have ever existed, and I know all those religions were just stories that people were making up. I don't see how christianity isn't just a different story, given the fact we can't prove God exists and therefore we can't prove any of Jesus miracles actually happened. So God and the Leprchan fall into the same category, we can't prove Leprchans exist and we can't prove God exist, so there you go the two are one in the same, just about. There is not much difference between the two.

So, if we know Mohammed din't listen to an angle in a cave, and we also know that christianity was an oppressed cult for over two hundred years, which does mean we have no good reason to believe Jesus came back from the dead. Then there is half of the believing world right there rejected, the other half pretty much is just made up too, in my opinion.

So there you go if you know religion is man made, then you know God does not exist, the one follows the other.
We know this apostori by looking at religious claims and all those religions and denominations that are out there.

So what are your thoughts?

I am just basically looking for a philosophical debate where we can agree to disagree, but still have a little fun performing mental exercises about how do we know things, either apostori or apriori about the claim of the existance of God, and how do we know different things too. So if you want to jump in and tell me why you don't believe Islam, or why you don't believe Hinduism then we could talk about that too. The debate should be fun for everybody, try not to get offended. Religious beliefes should be just an opinion pretty much.

If someone wanted to believe their dog made the universe, what is wrong with that? Nothing not a thing, obviously we couldn't take him seriously the way we have to with people who are hindu or muslim, but still it is okay to have weird belief like that. If you wanted to think a Leperchan made the universe and he lives in the woods somewhere, there is nothing wrong with that. It is weird, but there is nothing wrong with it.

So what are your thoughts on all this?

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drifter5 said:

doubting Thomas God believes in you - "Not one... is forgotten before God " Luke 12: 6.

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phsyxx said:

Why the elipsis between the "is" and "one"?
Is there a verse there that would contradict what you've said that you've edited out?
Let's see...
something to do with sparrows...

it doesn't really make sense in context.

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drifter5 said:

doubting Thomas God believes in you - "Not one... is forgotten before God " Luke 12: 6.

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