How God disciples?

[Kostilaks]

hi

 

[Call me Nic]

people say that God stopped punishing our earthly lives because of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ. But I read verses that say that He uses discipline. can you tell me examples of discipline?

The fornicator in 1 Corinthians 5 being chastised, thrown out of the church, and then allowed back in and forgiven in 2 Corinthians.

 

[Stringfellow_Hawke]

20 When you meet together, you are not really interested in the Lord’s Supper. 21 For some of you hurry to eat your own meal without sharing with others. As a result, some go hungry while others get drunk.22 What? Don’t you have your own homes for eating and drinking? Or do you really want to disgrace God’s church and shame the poor? What am I supposed to say? Do you want me to praise you? Well, I certainly will not praise you for this!

23 For I pass on to you what I received from the Lord himself. On the night when he was betrayed, the Lord Jesus took some bread 24 and gave thanks to God for it. Then he broke it in pieces and said, “This is my body, which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me.” 25 In the same way, he took the cup of wine after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant between God and his people—an agreement confirmed with my blood. Do this in remembrance of me as often as you drink it.” 26 For every time you eat this bread and drink this cup, you are announcing the Lord’s death until he comes again.

27 So anyone who eats this bread or drinks this cup of the Lord unworthily is guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord. 28 That is why you should examine yourself before eating the bread and drinking the cup. 29 For if you eat the bread or drink the cup without honoring the body of Christ, you are eating and drinking God’s judgment upon yourself. 30 That is why many of you are weak and sick and some have even died.

1 Corinthians 11:20-30 (NLT)

(GASP!! , Stringfellow Hawke isn't using the KJV!!!) LOL

 

[Call me Nic]

(GASP!! , Stringfellow Hawke isn't using the KJV!!!) LOL

Heretic.

 

[com7fy8]

people say that God stopped punishing our earthly lives because of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ.

Jesus on the cross took the punishment for our sins. But there can be consequences which come because of how we now sin. They might not be meant only as punishment, though, but as measures to manage us to get real correction. But while we are in a selfish way, we can see the measures as being a punishment, but later we may realize it helped to stop us from going the wrong way even into much worse trouble and loss.

"God resists the proud," we have in James 4:6 and also in 1 Peter 5:5. Resisting is not necessarily punishment but God arranging for you in your ego to have interference so you don't keep going the wrong way which could get you and others into much worse pain and trouble and loss.

God wants your attention to be with Him instead of pushing for what you want and demand and dictate.

So, when we get into nasty reacting and irritable and complaining, it can be that God has arranged for things to mess with what we are doing > because He is not pleased with what we are doing, or He is not pleased with how we are doing something that He does want. And so, when we start to get negative, this should be a warning sign that we need to stop what we are doing, right away, and trust God to restore us and correct us and have us sensitively sharing with Him in His peace and obeying what He has us do with Him in His peace.

But I read verses that say that He uses discipline. can you tell me examples of discipline?

First, I would like to offer how Hebrews 12:4-11 says our Heavenly Father disciplines all of us who are His children. It is not only punishment, but changing us to share with God in His own holiness and so we have His love's "peaceable fruit of righteousness" in our character. Punishing can not do this.

 

[Greg J.]

people say that God stopped punishing our earthly lives because of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ. But I read verses that say that He uses discipline. can you tell me examples of discipline?

Christ's sacrifice did not change how God behaves. It changed who we are (if we believe).

“I the LORD do not change. So you, O descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed. (Malachi 3:6, 1984 NIV)

That is why it is better to say the Lord disciplines those who have entrusted themselves to him, rather than punishes. We are now sons and daughters reborn in Christ with God's nature. Punishment is justice, not necessarily remedial (for the one punished), while discipline is remedial. (See Hebrews 12:6-8+.)