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How Evolution Gained Prominence

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This is an essay I wrote for a recent college assignment. Its not a publishable article, but I think I make a valid point here.

How Evolution Gained Prominence



Evolution was not a new concept with Charles Darwin. It had been proposed a few times before and largely rejected by the scientific community. What was new with Darwin was the concept of evolution being powered by natural selection. His book On The Origin of Species took the scientific world by storm, and as they say, the rest is history. Evolutionary theory has since been the foundation of many fields of science.



Since evolution had already been a rejected idea, why did the addition of natural selection morph it into a foundational theory? After all, natural selection is a rather simple principle. On its own it could not have transformed evolution into the entire thrust of science. Creation doctrine is what made evolution popular.



Creation doctrine in Darwin’s time was very unrealistic. Based on references the Bible makes to animals being “kinds” and reproducing after their own “kind” it was held that, outside of domestic breeding, creatures have not changed from the moment God created them. Never mind that the Bible doesn’t define “kinds” of animals this way. The Bible’s use of the word “kind” to categorize animals is in reality a broad definition that loosely describes the forms animals possess. A horse is a horse whether Arabian or mustang. And a finch is a finch whether it is a goldfinch or one of Darwin’s Galapagos finches. Contrary to the old creation doctrine, changes in animals do occur. This is not contrary to the Bible itself, which never attempts to narrowly define the animals God created. For some reason Christians of that time did not see this clearly and believed contrary to both the Bible and observable phenomenon all around them. The stage was set for a small truth to have great persuasion.



This is where natural selection gained its power to move evolution into the forefront. Not from itself, but from the closely held error of a dogmatic creed. This wrong view made societies ripe for mass deception.



Enter now Darwin’s invasion with his little army of finches. With just a few songbirds closely resembling each other the world saw evidence that animals can vary over time. This fact made people look at nature with a different set of glasses, and they saw even more evidence of natural selection. Observed were such things as the color morphs of Painted Desert squirrels, size differences between lion species and, ultimately, the skin color variations in humans themselves. Nearly everything in nature shows variation.



Now we can see all of the damage done. One hundred-fifty years later intellectuals of our culture mock Christianity, and many of those rejecting Christ do so because they have been taught that evolution is the omnipotent creator. One unbiblical doctrine fed the fire of evolution, and to this day salvation is ignored as irrelevant, and sin is redefined as choice. It is now more difficult to be a witness for Christ if you do not know what evolution is, and what the evidence against it is. When Christians are not well versed in creation science, they often cannot get past the origins debate when witnessing for Jesus, and many have even tried to put evolution and God together in a compromise known as theistic evolution.



Things have gotten better, though. Christians today have a more correct understanding of creation, and are beginning to understand that natural selection does occur in the natural world. The debate between creation and evolution is heating up again, as it well should. But we can easily lose sight of the real controversy, for it isn’t merely a matter of theological or even scientific correctness. It is a matter of saving souls. Multitudes are dying with the belief that there is no God and no salvation. Our Christian forefathers made a huge error, and it is now up to us to regain lost ground surrendered to Darwin’s finches.
 

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The Seeker said:
Actually, I'd guess it was the strong evidence and compelling logic that made evolution popular as a theory.
That and for Christians it was a much better alternative to calling God an incompetent and sometimes sadistic designer.
 
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LewisWildermuth said:
Your paper suffers from a few fatal flaws, one being that it was Christians that came up with the idea of evolution. Another being that somehow evolution opposes God.
The Bible says that by one man (Adam) sin entered the world, and death by sin. In other words, death is a direct result of sin.

If, as evolution surmises, death existed before Adam, then it could not have been a result of sin. Sin then becomes nothing more than a human construct and not reality, and death would be nothing more than part of a cycle. You know, Disney's "Circle of Life." And if sin is a human construct, then salvation is too.

This is one of the most glaring points of contradiction between evolution and Christianity.

Science says evolution is impossible, but scientists ignore this and make their proposals of naturalistic autonomy anyway.
 
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Creationism is a philosophy that demonstrates a lack of critical appraisal and logic. Creationism first arose because people in the time that the Old Testament was written had no idea about genetics, molecular biology, astrophysics, quantum mechanics and so on.

So, and I ask this from a Christian point of view, why did God not tell them the actual course of events? Well, the Bible is not a science textbook. The Bible is a guide to getting closer to God and about acknowledging the love that God is. Had God revealed to the original authors, thousands of years ago when scientific understanding was not quite at it's zenith, the mechanisms behind creation there would be a few consequences.

First and foremost the Bible would have been the size of a small city. Secondly, the Word of God, the message that He was conveying, would have been lost to technical detail. Thridly, the original authors would not have had a clue what He was talking about. Even now there is so much mind-blowing stuff for scientists to attempt to understand that we have barely scratched the surface.

Creationism has arisen out of a fear of knowledge. There is a general misconception (one that, to be fair, even atheists can be guilty of) that somehow attempting to understand the Laws that govern creation, somehow rules out a Creator. Rarely do people consider the idea that Laws might exist in science because there is a Legislator who created those laws. It is this misconception that has Creationists rounding on Christians, other-religions and atheists alike who believe in evolution.

The sad fact is, that by artificially inserting the wedge between science and religion, Creationism actually does drive people away from God. There is no wedge between science and religion but when Creationists insert one, people who can use their eyes and brains are forced into an unfortunate predicament. They can see compelling evidence that goes against Creationism. They can see, with relatively little scratching of the surface, the misconceptions, untruths, and downright absurdity of Creationist argument, such as those put about by the laughably entitled "Dr." Kent Hovind. Therefore, when Creationists tell them that it's the Creationist way or the highway, people will choose the highway. The highway away from God.

Creationism is one of the fastest growing threats. And not to science. Science will not be threatened by Creationism because the YEC argument is so weak. Rather, Creationism is a threat to Christianity. Trying to enforce the idea of Creationism leads to people rejecting the whole concept. If you wish to believe YECism in spite of the science, then fine, no-one really cares, that's your choice. But when YECs try to enforce their view on people who reject it as absurd, they taint Christianity thus working against what they're trying to acheive in the first place.

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h2whoa:
Well, the Bible is not a science textbook. The Bible is a guide to getting closer to God and about acknowledging the love that God is.
Well, yes and no. Your whole argument seems based on these two statements.

You are correct that the Bible is not a science textbook. And it is a guide to getting to know God and be closer to Him. But that is not its limit, nor should it be.

The Bible is also history, poetry, prophecy, and biography. The creation account is written as a history. It has the same genre styles of all the other histories of the Old Testament. Therefore, to say it is not correct in its statements is to either call God a liar or to say the whole Bible is not His word.

Either way, one is going to be terribly wrong.

But more to the point...the people of Biblical times were not stupid. God could have very easily explained evolutionary origins without the scientific jargons of DNA, natural selection, etc. After all, public schools do it with our kindergarten children, so surely Moses would have understood. It is somewhat arrogant to say Moses, and the Hebrews as a whole, were too stupid to understand small changes over time.
 
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Agape Theos said:
The Bible says that by one man (Adam) sin entered the world, and death by sin. In other words, death is a direct result of sin.
Your "in other words" does not really add up here. The Bible does not say there was no death in the world before Adam fell into sin.

2 Peter 2:12
But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;

Sin reduced man to the level of a unreasoning, irrational brute beast.
 
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Agape Theos said:
The Bible says that by one man (Adam) sin entered the world, and death by sin. In other words, death is a direct result of sin.

If, as evolution surmises, death existed before Adam, then it could not have been a result of sin. Sin then becomes nothing more than a human construct and not reality, and death would be nothing more than part of a cycle. You know, Disney's "Circle of Life." And if sin is a human construct, then salvation is too.

This is one of the most glaring points of contradiction between evolution and Christianity.

Science says evolution is impossible, but scientists ignore this and make their proposals of naturalistic autonomy anyway.
So, when I became a Christian and accepted the forgiveness of Jesus and his atonement of my sins I became physically immortal? Yay!

Wait.... If that was true shouldn't there be a lot more old Christians running around?


Or could it be that physical death is not what God was talking about in the first place?
 
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Agape Theos said:
You are correct that the Bible is not a science textbook. And it is a guide to getting to know God and be closer to Him. But that is not its limit, nor should it be.
So does the fact that it doesn't explain that bacteria and viruses exist and make us ill make that false too? Does the fact that it doesn't describe the gamete fertilisation event mean that doesn't happen too? Does the fact that it doesn't explain that lightning is a massive discharge of oppositely charged ions mean that it isn't? How far do want to extend that?

Agape Theos said:
The creation account is written as a history.
Funny I don't recall it saying that Genesis was a literal rendering of the Creation nor that it was not to be interpreted in any other way than as written.

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Therefore, to say it is not correct in its statements is to either call God a liar or to say the whole Bible is not His word.
No this proves my point. Creationists argue this but it forces the choice then, believe what we can see is real or believe what we can't. I would say that Genesis tells you, in easy to understand, metaphor manner, that God is the creator. Doesn't make Him a liar either way. It's a metaphor.

Agape Theos said:
It is somewhat arrogant to say Moses, and the Hebrews as a whole, were too stupid to understand small changes over time.
There is a difference between level of understanding and stupidity. At what point did I accuse Hebrews of being stupid?

Nice strawman though.

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Agape Theos said:
Science says evolution is impossible, but scientists ignore this and make their proposals of naturalistic autonomy anyway.

Really? I was always under the impression that science was what provided the evidence that supported evolution. Perhaps you could cite an example of where science says evolution is impossible.
 
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Agape Theos said:
The Bible says that by one man (Adam) sin entered the world, and death by sin. In other words, death is a direct result of sin.
Hooray for the Bible. But the Bible is not Christianity.

If, as evolution surmises, death existed before Adam, then it could not have been a result of sin. Sin then becomes nothing more than a human construct and not reality, and death would be nothing more than part of a cycle. You know, Disney's "Circle of Life." And if sin is a human construct, then salvation is too.
Since both of them come from the Bible, that makes them constructs.
Hmmm..... who wrote the Bible again?

This is one of the most glaring points of contradiction between evolution and Christianity.
No, it's a contradiction between evolution and your interpretation of the Bible.

Science says evolution is impossible, but scientists ignore this and make their proposals of naturalistic autonomy anyway.
Science says no such thing. The Bible does mention something about false witness, IIRC...
 
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Agape Theos said:
h2whoa:
Well, yes and no. Your whole argument seems based on these two statements.

You are correct that the Bible is not a science textbook. And it is a guide to getting to know God and be closer to Him. But that is not its limit, nor should it be.
Agreed. but in stretching the "limits" let us not transform the Bible into something it's not.

The Bible is also history, poetry, prophecy, and biography. The creation account is written as a history. It has the same genre styles of all the other histories of the Old Testament. Therefore, to say it is not correct in its statements is to either call God a liar or to say the whole Bible is not His word.
With the exception of chapter 1-3, which sound like poetry and mythology to most people.

I mean, come on... magic gardens, forbidden fruits,talking snakes?

And the Bible was already heavily edited and compliled. It was the early church who said what was "God's Word" and what was not. Suppose they were wrong?


Either way, one is going to be terribly wrong.
And that one could not possibly be you, could it?

But more to the point...the people of Biblical times were not stupid. God could have very easily explained evolutionary origins without the scientific jargons of DNA, natural selection, etc.
And yet He never bothered to explain the mysteries of electricity or indoor plumbing to them either. Where are this God's priorities?

After all, public schools do it with our kindergarten children, so surely Moses would have understood. It is somewhat arrogant to say Moses, and the Hebrews as a whole, were too stupid to understand small changes over time.
Why not? Many of the creationists on boards like these still don't get it, even when it's explained to them repeatedly.

Something tells me Moses had bigger things on his plate at the time, anyway.
 
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Leave the Hebrew's out of this -- we DO NOT believe in the concept of Original Sin. When you take that away, the entire OT story being important other than allegorically falls apart, because it doesn't matter if death existed before Adam and Eve.

The whole point of this is pretty terrible -- if you have an idea that is backed by the objective evidence which is better than evolution, put it forth. Otherwise, leave it alone. And BTW creationism (can't be disporved) and ID (isn't a theory, just a criticisim) don't count.
 
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Sgent29 said:
Leave the Hebrew's out of this -- we DO NOT believe in the concept of Original Sin. When you take that away, the entire OT story being important other than allegorically falls apart, because it doesn't matter if death existed before Adam and Eve.

The whole point of this is pretty terrible -- if you have an idea that is backed by the objective evidence which is better than evolution, put it forth. Otherwise, leave it alone. And BTW creationism (can't be disporved) and ID (isn't a theory, just a criticisim) don't count.

Actually Creationism the theory can be falsified, but creationism the doctrine cannot. I can't speak of for all atheist evolutionists, but I know many of us, as well as TEs, OECs and those of other faiths who accept an old Earth and evolution agree both that the scientific claims of YEC have been falsified for nearly 2 centuries, and that fact in no way effects the central doctrine of the Gospels.

The nature of sin is a ontological argument, not a theological one if one tries to infuse too much literalism into Genesis... and it certainly isn't a scientific one. The nature of sin comes down to purely theological grounds - where it belongs - if Genesis is read metaphorically. Then it doesn't matter for Jew or Gentile. Man has (by whatever method) a sinfull nature and is in need to atonement... 'nuff said - the story serves it's purpose. I just wish the YECs would get that.

Sgent29, if you would be so kind, could you expound on the traditional Jewish views of Genesis with regard to how literal it should be taken. We've had a few discussions within threads and short lived threads on the thoughts of Jewish scholars in the 1st and 2nd BCE as well as early Church fathers, but they were mostly commented on by Christians and non-believers. Could you provide a much needed... and welcomed Jewish perspective?
 
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Ok, in the interest of answering the question, I will post this site, but realize that this possibly will be inflamitory to some Christians. This is a site explicitly for anit-evangilism due to the uprising of messianic christianity and jews for jesus, but the Rabbi's detailed explanation of Jewish thought on Original Sin is acceptable for purposes of the internet
www.outreachjudaism.org/original.htm

One thing to point out is that Jewish thought does agree that there is an "inclination to sin", just as there is an "inclination to do good". Keep in mind that there is no concept of afterlife as in Christianity -- so the concept is to try to do well and please god.

This question has the potential to get off the evolution debate quickley (already has in fact), so I will be happy to discuss it in the other religion forum in more detail if there are additional questions.
 
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Agape Theos said:
Since evolution had already been a rejected idea, why did the addition of natural selection morph it into a foundational theory? After all, natural selection is a rather simple principle. On its own it could not have transformed evolution into the entire thrust of science. Creation doctrine is what made evolution popular.[/size][/font]
Another example of creationists ignoring history. Darwin's mechanism for evolution remained controversial until the advent of Neo-Darwinism where mutation was matched with natural selection (instead of being seen as two contenders as the mechanism). It was all the evidence for common decent that convinced the scientific community, NOT natural selection, which many doubted as the primary mechanism. Therefore, the foundation of your thesis is based on misinformation.

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Now we can see all of the damage done. One hundred-fifty years later intellectuals of our culture mock Christianity, and many of those rejecting Christ do so because they have been taught that evolution is the omnipotent creator. One unbiblical doctrine fed the fire of evolution, and to this day salvation is ignored as irrelevant, and sin is redefined as choice. It is now more difficult to be a witness for Christ if you do not know what evolution is, and what the evidence against it is. When Christians are not well versed in creation science, they often cannot get past the origins debate when witnessing for Jesus, and many have even tried to put evolution and God together in a compromise known as theistic evolution.
Science does not mock Christianity, nor does it say that sin is choice.
 
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