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That type of misinformation
I've been looking at post #19 on the 23rd Canon of the 6th seesion on Justification and it appears that someone has changed the words "who ever saith" (quoted in the first two references) to "who ever believeth" (quoted in the third reference). The canons all say "who ever saith" because they were pointed at persons who were teaching (not believing) heresy.
Canon 23 of the 6th Session of Trent on Justification as rendered by the OP:
Canon 23 as rendered by the provided Roman source:Canon 23: "lf any one saith, that a man once justified can sin no more, nor lose grace, and that therefore he that falls and sins was never truly justified; or, on the other hand, that he is able, during his whole life, to avoid all sins, even those that are venial,- except by a special privilege from God, as the Church holds in regard of the Blessed Virgin; let him be anathema."
Once again, exactly the same.CANON XXIII.-lf any one saith, that a man once justified can sin no more, nor lose grace, and that therefore he that falls and sins was never truly justified; or, on the other hand, that he is able, during his whole life, to avoid all sins, even those that are venial,-except by a special privilege from God, as the Church holds in regard of the Blessed Virgin; let him be anathema.
<staff edit>Something is definately up.
The OP is clear that the Scriptures that follow the canons are in comparison to the canons of Trent.And am I correct in understanding that the scripture references in the OP were put there by a non-Catholic source?
There will be a few differences in language because the documents were originally written in Latin.
I wish somebody would a new translation. Hanover College reproduces the 1848 Waterworth translation, and that translation uses language that was archaic at that time.
There certainly is something very disturbing about this.
I refer you to this post:
Originally Posted by tadoflamb
I've been looking at post #19 on the 23rd Canon of the 6th seesion on Justification and it appears that someone has changed the words "who ever saith" (quoted in the first two references) to "who ever believeth" (quoted in the third reference). The canons all say "who ever saith" because they were pointed at persons who were teaching (not believing) heresy.
Something is definately up.
And am I correct in understanding that the scripture references in the OP were put there by a non-Catholic source?
Has been to defend the stance of Romes "Trent" vs. Scripture... they have pretty much been attacks on the credibility of me OR my OP.
Trent must be indefensible.
CCC 847 - "....Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience—those too may achieve eternal salvation."
Catechism Of The Catholic Church:
http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt1sect2chpt3art9p3.htm
Another False Statement Repudiated by Yours Truly, Catholic Christian
Have a nice day.
Another false allegation refuted:
"Furthermore, we declare, we proclaim, we define that it is absolutely necessary for salvation that every human creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff. -Unam Sanctum
I Like your Catechism better. Like the Bible, it only requires subjection to God.
Have a nice forever!
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