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How does evolution explain unique fingerprints?

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ServantofTheOne said:
"It doesn't say they are "the most similar." "

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According to a forensic biologist at the University of Adelaide, koala fingerprints have patterns which are surprisingly like those of humans, with loops, whorls, and arches. Maciej Henneberg says that although it is unlikely that koala prints will be found at the scene of a crime, police should be aware of the possibility of confusion; their chief suspect may turn out to be cute, furry, and partial to gum leaves.

The real puzzle for evolutionists is that human fingerprint patterns are much closer to those of koalas than to those of chimpanzees, which they think are our closest relatives. This means, says Henneberg, that ‘we have two lineage's independently developing the same trait’." New Scientist, p. 12,
December 7, 1996.
Heh. The really interesting aspect of this quote is that its sole internet attribution is found with our old friends, Answers in Genesis. If you can independently substantiate it, we'll deal with it then.
 
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ServantofTheOne said:
"...This means, says Henneberg, that ‘we have two lineage's [sic] independently developing the same trait’." New Scientist, p. 12,
December 7, 1996.

Wow. That would require a sort of completely hypothetical "convergent evolution," if you will, which no scientist has ever thought of before.
 
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Take a good look at the gradiant point-map of the fingerprint:
http://www.hh.se/staff/kn/papers/nilsson02cph.pdf

Now consider what level of chance it would be for every single point to be identical. There are fingerprints with as many as seven identical points (and if you fingerprinted everyone on earth you might find two with more). SO MANY POINTS!
 
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Actually it's not that the number of parameters involved makes sure the fingerprints are unique but the other way round: Because there are so many parameters we just assume they are unique. And as long as we don't find two identical fingerprints we use it therefore for identification purposes. And even if we will find two identical fingerprints (very low probability) we will still use it for that, even if we will no longer see it as proof for identification but only as strong evidence from there on.

But i'll agree anytime that probability mathematics can be as mystical as religion sometimes :)
 
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ServantofTheOne said:
"its irrelevant to evolutionary theory, as it isn't genetic ( at least not totally)"

irrelevant to evolutionary theory?? If we did develop over time from a common ancestor to the apes and monkies, they should have fingerprints that are closely associated to human fingerprints.

why is it that the koala bear has the most similar fingerprints to humans? how can this be explained in light of evolutionary theory.


"The Koala has fingerprints that are so similar to the human fingerprint that it is almost impossible to tell them apart because of the pattern, shape and size of the ridges. Under the microscope, the ridges look exactly the same. The width of the ridge, the shape, general size and pattern is the same. The main difference is that the entire human palm and fingers are covered with ridges while the koala only has ridges on its fingertips and some parts of the palm."
http://www.alumni.ca/~fren4j0/animal_fingerprints.htm

26% percent of your DNA is the same as a banana, get over yourself.
 
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