How do you overcome bitterness toward God?

Wagonmaker · Jan 12, 2013

Read Job.

victoryword · Jan 12, 2013

I think a lot of the response on this thread are far from what I would call compassionate, or Biblical - and certainly not within the ideals held by the Faith Movement.

I smell a rat - a dead, rotten, decomposed RAT!

justhappeneduponthis · Jan 12, 2013

Sacrifice of Praise

Oct6 by justhappeneduponthis

I hadnt felt like singing
As things were too messed up.
I hadnt felt like giving thanks
Before Communions cup.
I hadnt felt the blessing
That often comes with praise.
I hadnt seen the sunshine
In oh, so many days.

The business it was faltering
And bankers on the phone
And payroll harder with each week.
I felt so tired, alone.
And here Thanksgiving Sunday.
The church decked out so fine.
With smiling faces all around
But sure no smile on mine.

And strangers showing in the mix
As oft the case this day.
And one new man just two rows down
In pensive pause to pray.
His face seemed rapt, transported
As to his God he turned;
But then I saw the other side
So badly scarred and burned.

A voice inside now plucked my heart,
You think you have it rough.
You see that man, how sufferings toll
Brings out the finer stuff.
And he is givinggiving Son
The thanks that blessed me best
As you might too, in what you do
In passing through your test.

nhisname · Jan 12, 2013

simply christian said:
I'm wondering how you do this. Can anyone help?

When we become followers of Christ are we not to be as Christ was? Shouldn't we be able to deal with disappointments in life? Look at Christ's life he was was mocked, ridiculed, spat upon, beaten and crucified on a lonely cross. God allows things to happen to us to strengthen our faith in him. If all we ever got was good things in life how are we able to cope when something really bad happens. Job was strong in his faith, it's what kept him alive and God blessed him for it.

hhodgson · Jan 12, 2013

victoryword said:
I think a lot of the response on this thread are far from what I would call compassionate, or Biblical - and certainly not within the ideals held by the Faith Movement.

I smell a rat - a dead, rotten, decomposed RAT!

Hmmm..! Maybe more than one.

Greater works...
_____________
Harry

Lilly Owl · Jan 12, 2013

nhisname said:
When we become followers of Christ are we not to be as Christ was?

Christ wasn't at all like we are though.
He was divine perfection in the flesh. The Son of man. But the embodiment of God.
And let's not forget he lost his temper in the Temple when he overthrew the money changers tables.
So while being divine he also had a temper.

How can we who are sinners hope to be like unto the man who was sinless?

victoryword · Jan 13, 2013

hhodgson said:
Hmmm..! Maybe more than one.

Greater works...
_____________
Harry

Rats do gnaw their way into people's homes. Someone sets out some garbage and the rats come sneaking in.

WordofHisPower · Jan 13, 2013

simply christian said:
I'm wondering how you do this. Can anyone help?

The way you overcome bitterness toward God is to tell Him you're sorry for feeling that way and ask Him to help change your attitude.

You need God, so it's unwise to hold onto your bitterness and separate yourself from Him.

I guarantee you're misunderstanding something if you're blaming God for anything.

Christ said the devil comes to steal kill and destroy, but I've come that you might have life abundant.

If you're life isn't abundant, you need God's help to find out from scripture how the devil has tricked you into allowing him to steal kill and destroy things in your life.

The parable of the sower says the shallow soil (heart) is one who receives God's word gladly at first, but when trouble comes for the word's sake, the heart withers (loses joy and faith) because it had no root.

We all experience trouble. Those who stand with God, get His help with trouble, and come out better than before like Job.

Those who blame God allow the devil to steal kill and destroy their lives with no way out.

If you like Job, follow his example and repent as he did for complaining to God. He repented and glorified God and God returned a double portion to him. I suggest you read Job 1-3 and 38-42 if you're looking for God's answers to Job. The rest of Job is the foolish ideas of his friends.

WordofHisPower · Jan 13, 2013

Reverse the Curse by Annette Capps might help you get out of the unhappy circumstances you're in.

Or God's Creative Power by Charles Capps.

Or maybe someone else can suggest something that helped them change their lives from lack to fullness.

simply christian · Jan 13, 2013

victoryword said:
I think a lot of the response on this thread are far from what I would call compassionate, or Biblical - and certainly not within the ideals held by the Faith Movement.

I smell a rat - a dead, rotten, decomposed RAT!

I agree completely.

Some of the answers are only further angering me. Is that the intent of some here? Because if it is, it's working. And it's only pushing me farther away from God.

simply christian · Jan 13, 2013

Wagonmaker said:
God (the power of the cosmos) owes you diddly squat.

On the one hand, that is true and I'm not arguing with that.

However, on the other, I would ask what telling me this so rudely is hoping to accomplish? If God doesn't even bother to answer prayers, why do I pray or believe in him? I might as well be an atheist, for all practical purposes, according to what you said.

Wagonmaker · Jan 13, 2013

simply christian said:
I agree completely.

Some of the answers are only further angering me. Is that the intent of some here? Because if it is, it's working. And it's only pushing me farther away from God.

I'm often offended by the responses here. And when I'm finished throwing a tantrum, I realize that their advice was more what I needed to hear than the coddling. You're a grown man. You need to take responsibility for your life. God doesn't owe you a thing, and to be angry with him is great. But take it out on him. Yell and cuss at him if you want. He's not going to get mad at you. It's all a process.

Everyone here has been disappointed and let down in life. We didn't ask to be put on this planet. God understands. He is experiencing everything you are, because he is in you. He is with you right now. Your perspective is the only hindrance.

simply christian · Jan 13, 2013

WordofHisPower said:
The way you overcome bitterness toward God is to tell Him you're sorry for feeling that way and ask Him to help change your attitude.

You need God, so it's unwise to hold onto your bitterness and separate yourself from Him.

I guarantee you're misunderstanding something if you're blaming God for anything.

Christ said the devil comes to steal kill and destroy, but I've come that you might have life abundant.

If you're life isn't abundant, you need God's help to find out from scripture how the devil has tricked you into allowing him to steal kill and destroy things in your life.

The parable of the sower says the shallow soil (heart) is one who receives God's word gladly at first, but when trouble comes for the word's sake, the heart withers (loses joy and faith) because it had no root.

We all experience trouble. Those who stand with God, get His help with trouble, and come out better than before like Job.

Those who blame God allow the devil to steal kill and destroy their lives with no way out.

If you like Job, follow his example and repent as he did for complaining to God. He repented and glorified God and God returned a double portion to him. I suggest you read Job 1-3 and 38-42 if you're looking for God's answers to Job. The rest of Job is the foolish ideas of his friends.

I don't know if I'm really sorry though. I won't lie to God.

Yes, bitterness can corrupt the soul and spiritual things, and I don't want that, so I'm seeking help on how to overcome this.

Job got God to personally show up and give him a personal visit. I've never had such an experience and probably never will either, so you can't expect me to respond the same way as Job, when he repented in "dust and ashes". Like poor Job, I too am looking for answers for why God withholds good things. It is a fair question for someone to ask.

When people tell me, "God doesn't owe you anything", that doesn't help anything. Depending on your theology, maybe he doesn't. But how does this help me? It just makes me want to have nothing to do with him. If God doesn't care about me or my life, then why do I care about him? You see, it works both ways. So people telling me that is hardly useful.

Reading Job has never helped me at all. It only fills me with far more doubt. It's impossible to trust God (for good) if we just use Job.

simply christian · Jan 13, 2013

Wagonmaker said:
I'm often offended by the responses here. And when I'm finished throwing a tantrum, I realize that their advice was more what I needed to hear than the coddling. You're a grown man. You need to take responsibility for your life. God doesn't owe you a thing, and to be angry with him is great. But take it out on him. Yell and cuss at him if you want. He's not going to get mad at you. It's all a process.

Everyone here has been disappointed and let down in life. We didn't ask to be put on this planet. God understands. He is experiencing everything you are, because he is in you. He is with you right now. Your perspective is the only hindrance.

And I have. But I'm beyond angry. I'm bitter. Bitterness is when unresolved anger takes root in the heart. I could potentially end up walking away from God at some point, if my heart does not change or if God doesn't do something. I have talked to god about this. Nothing changes, he doesn't care as you say.

I guess we'll see what happens. We know he won't do anything, so it's probably going to be the former.

You're right, we didn't ask to be here. It's customary for a good parent to take care of their children and their needs and sometimes, even their wants. But I guess human rules don't apply to Yahweh, do they?

Wagonmaker · Jan 13, 2013

simply christian said:
On the one hand, that is true and I'm not arguing with that.

However, on the other, I would ask what telling me this so rudely is hoping to accomplish? If God doesn't even bother to answer prayers, why do I pray or believe in him? I might as well be an atheist, for all practical purposes, according to what you said.

God does answer prayers, and praying is highly effective. But if all you are doing is praying, how do you suppose you are going to get answers? God uses us to get things done.

Yes, by all means, become an atheist. I tried that once, and I'm still suffering the consequences. I'll never reject God again as long as I have breath.

I'm not trying to be unloving. I have been where you are (in my limited understanding of your situation). If we were talking about this over a beer, I might even physically slap you for effect. I want you to wake up to the fact that God isn't your problem. He's probably giving you solutions left and right if you would just open your eyes.

What behaviors can you change to improve your spiritual ears and eyes? Don't answer me. Answer for yourself. You are thwarting rich blessings if you are truly a child of God.

Besides, I'm just in a bad mood lately because of my own dilemmas. I am personally annoyed at my present situation, so I apologize if I'm being too hard on you. It's not out of hate. I really do love my brothers and sisters in Christ, and I wish we were a lot further along in our evolution toward Christlikeness.

Blessings to you.

Shepherd1 · Jan 13, 2013

simply christian said:
I'm wondering how you do this. Can anyone help?

Hi Simply Christian

It's nice to meet you. I hope you find the answers you're seeking, although I do not understand exactly where you are coming from. Probably due to the high traffic in all the responses. If we take a moment to consider the enormity of God's love for us, we shall see that neither we nor anyone else for that matter, can truly grasp the awesomeness and the mystery of our God - the same God that gave up His precious and beautiful Son Jesus to die for us - a most painful and horrible death no doubt - all so that we can be set free to live a life in eternity with our Father in Heaven. It's enough to make ya wanna cry! John 3:16 "For God SO LOVED the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life." It really helps to think on this fact - that He gave up His only Son to die such a horrible death - just for us! All for you too, brother. So we could all live and not perish! That sure is amazing to say the least! How hard would that have been??? I have a child and it upsets me to see that child suffering in any way at all...

I hope this helps you in some way.

God bless...

Shep

Scottmcc1 · Jan 13, 2013

simply christian said:
And I have. But I'm beyond angry. I'm bitter. Bitterness is when unresolved anger takes root in the heart. I could potentially end up walking away from God at some point, if my heart does not change or if God doesn't do something. I have talked to god about this. Nothing changes, he doesn't care as you say.

I guess we'll see what happens. We know he won't do anything, so it's probably going to be the former.

You're right, we didn't ask to be here. It's customary for a good parent to take care of their children and their needs and sometimes, even their wants. But I guess human rules don't apply to Yahweh, do they?

Many make a god as a derivative of God. And worship their god they have made. Then when they return to reality and realize life does not fit their scheme they become upset saying that's not what my god would do.

Life is not easy. I always return to the North Koreans and pray for them when I'm disappointed. They have it tough. But many in the past have had it tough. We just live in good times now.

Not saying God does not answer prayer. But contentment is the key to peace. Philippians 4:11 "Not that I speak from want, for I have learned to be content in whatever circumstances I am."

Written from a 1st century dungeon!

Wagonmaker · Jan 13, 2013

I can't believe I'm suggesting this, but it sounds like you might need the experience. Try living without God for awhile. Make decisions based on the flesh instead of the spirit. Soon enough you will see the role God has been playing I. Your life from the day you were born.

ETA: don't really.

nhisname · Jan 13, 2013

Lilly Owl said:
Christ wasn't at all like we are though.
He was divine perfection in the flesh. The Son of man. But the embodiment of God.
And let's not forget he lost his temper in the Temple when he overthrew the money changers tables.
So while being divine he also had a temper.

How can we who are sinners hope to be like unto the man who was sinless?

Yes he lost his temper yet he did not sin. We are able to do the same.
When we take the Lord as Savior we die to our flesh and become Christlike in Spirit. Through his Grace we are able to do so. God is continually working on us to bring us to perfect Christlikeness. But a person has to read,study and pray on his Word. Everyone is at different maturity levels, I guess. We all face disappointments in life and God is able to bring us through these bad times.

victoryword · Jan 13, 2013

simply christian said:
I agree completely.

Some of the answers are only further angering me. Is that the intent of some here? Because if it is, it's working. And it's only pushing me farther away from God.

Well I apologize for some of my colleagues here. I think some of us need to put away the prosperity, faith, and authority over the devil books and revisit Kenneth Hagin's "Walking in love" teachings. We sometimes forget Paul's admonition to "speak the truth in love".

On the other hand, keep in mind that many detractors of the faith movement come in here just to argue and try to set traps for people. It is not an excuse for some of the lack of compassion shown you, but it can wary a person.

Now, are you willing to listen to sound Biblical reasons (compassionately given of course)? For example, I showed you some of your misunderstandings about Job. You did not acknowledge it. Do you want the truth that will help you overcome bitterness towards God? If so, I want to help you. However, if you have a mindset about God and Job and you are going to stick to that and argue about it then nothing more can be said here by me.

So let me know what you want.

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