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I'm new at this and wanted some clarification. I accepted Jesus and repented of my sins, sometimes I fall back into my sin but I ask for forgiveness and walk away with a intention not to do it again. That's what I understood from the bible. Then I read so many things on the internet that say you have to do this and that and I just end up being confused. Sometimes I get depressed because I don't think that I doing it right. Can someone who has a thorough understanding of the bible tell me? I would really appreciate it. THANKS
 

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HI JAVIER!

WELCOME TO CF! IT'S GREAT TO MEET YOU!

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You have asked a great question. Many new believers have the same concerns you mentioned.

Those who are lost sinners cannot earn their way into eternal life. No amount of good deeds or works will pay for sin. However, once a person has accepted Christ Jesus as Lord and Savior, his heart will desire to do good deeds and to obey God. Even Christians fail God and fall short almost daily; but Christ paid for all a Believer's sin; past, present, and future.

As Christians, we desire to live holy; but we are still surrounded by temptations, sin, evil, and struggles. We must endure these things while we wait for Christ's return.

No sin sends a Christian back to being a sinner. Nothing can EVER overpower the blood of Jesus. It is final and forever.

Those who claim to be Christians but do not love are lying. Some pretend to be Christians but cannot love others - this is because God is not in them, and GOD IS LOVE.

But you love. You love more now than at any time before in your life. That is the Spirit of the Living God who dwells in You. You are one of his disciples.


1 John 2
1. My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody [any Christian] does sin, we have an advocate with the Father—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. 2. He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.

John 13:35
By this will all men know that you are my disciples; that you have love for one another.





You can have peace that you HAVE BEEN justified. It is done and over for you and no other sacrifice is needed. You are bought with a price and belong to God.

Romans 5:1
"Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ."

Romans 8:1
"Therefore, there is now NO condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus."

Romans 8:38-39
"For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord."




You are one of His sheep. You recognize His voice when you feel sorry for your sins and wish to be free from them. That is His voice. That is evidence that He is your Shepherd. No one - not even you - can remove yourself from your Shepherd.

John 10:27-30
27. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. 28. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29. My Father, who has given them to me,a is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. 30. I and the Father are one.”




Javier, do your best each day to be Christ-like. This means to love God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength; and love others as you yourself have been loved by Christ. On these two commandments, hang ALL the Law and the prophets. You will fail. You will stumble. But you are His, and He will show you how to overcome and be victorious - one day at a time.

Matthew 22:37-40
37. Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ 38. This is the first and greatest commandment. 39. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40. All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
 
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I know I'm saved because God has saved me. There is nothing I can do for my salvation. Nothing. God has taken care of that 100%.

God came to earth in the form of man, lived the perfectly obedient life that we could not, died on the cross in our place and was resurrected. Our sins were nailed to the cross...every single one of them for the forgiveness of sins. No matter what I do, I can't earn any of this. It's all a gift from God. A gift that He sent His Son and a gift that He gives me faith to believe in His forgiveness.

This is how I know I'm saved. I don't look at me and anything I've done. I look to Christ and the cross where "it is finished".
 
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I'm new at this and wanted some clarification. I accepted Jesus and repented of my sins, sometimes I fall back into my sin but I ask for forgiveness and walk away with a intention not to do it again. That's what I understood from the bible. Then I read so many things on the internet that say you have to do this and that and I just end up being confused. Sometimes I get depressed because I don't think that I doing it right. Can someone who has a thorough understanding of the bible tell me? I would really appreciate it. THANKS

javier, your understanding is correct. Jesus made this very simple - so simple a child could do it. So simple, in fact, that only a child at heart can accept it. Trust Jesus to save you. Admit you can't do it yourself. Confess your sins as they come up, just as you have been doing, and thank Jesus for delivering you from them. Ignore anything that complicates or confuses, and focus on growing in faith and love. The church is filled with a lot of opinions. It is best to focus on Jesus and ignore the static. Jesus wants you to be free in Him (Gal 5.1).

Grace and peace to you,
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"I know whom I have relied on, and I'm persuaded that He is able to keep what I've committed to Him against that day."

You rely on Another to do something you can't do, yourself. It's no real surprise to feel edgy about having made the right decision to put your life in the hands of the Rescuer. The feelings don't change the reality. The feelings will change as you live out the reality.
 
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If you have found Christ then the next step is to be baptized. It's a command for believers. I highly encourage you to be baptized.

We are never going to be without sin until we are free from our mortality, but we can never be without grace to cover those sins if we continue in faith.
 
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Javier, when you became a Christian, you became like a baby in the Kingdom of God. Your newly-alive spirit needs love and care, and when you don't get it, you have a tendency to feel alone, lack nourishment, and search and reach out for comfort. If you are getting all of your information about your new-found faith on the Internet, your spirit is not being loved and cared for. You need to find a home where you can get what you need from other believers. These believers can also help you learn to walk, so to speak, and comfort you when you fall and scrape your proverbial knee. That's all you've done when you slip up - it's like scraping your knee. You are not expected to walk perfectly right away. But Aibrean is also right - you need to be baptized. I'm not sure we can really understand what happens when we are baptized, but there is a clear dividing line at this point in the life of a believer, and it seems generally speaking that there is more power over sin and hunger to learn and know more about Jesus after this point.

bless you, Javier
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I'm new at this and wanted some clarification. I accepted Jesus and repented of my sins, sometimes I fall back into my sin but I ask for forgiveness and walk away with a intention not to do it again. That's what I understood from the bible. Then I read so many things on the internet that say you have to do this and that and I just end up being confused. Sometimes I get depressed because I don't think that I doing it right. Can someone who has a thorough understanding of the bible tell me? I would really appreciate it. THANKS

Im not someone who knows the bible thoroughly (sorry) but replying because I am the same as you, a new christian, and still sin at lot (constantly even)

Im sure Im not doing it right, lol.

However I have felt gods presence, and his love, and he has answered my prayers, and for that reason I am sure he has forgiven me, and that I am saved, even though I still sin

If you are like me and want to stop all your sinning, but often just are unable to, and then feel bad about that, remember that these are are things that we may not be able to change ourselves with our own human strength. What I have tended to do is say in prayer that I realise my sins are not what he wants from me and that I am still committing them even as a christian, and I do want to stop them, but that I am struggling with stopping those particular sins. I then say the truth, "god I cant do this without your help, so I am asking you to take this on for me."

And I am still sinning those sins, believe you me. But I am also still feeling gods love and presence in my life. I am sure that when the time is right, god will start to deal with those things specifically but I think there are other changes he is working on first. And in the meantime, I am reminded of things like jesus forgiving the murderer on the cross beside him and saying we will be in heaven together this day, which reminds me that while we tend to grade our sins on levels of seriousness, and think that the badder ones are simply not ones we can ever be fogiven for (r not have to pay for for in some way) that maybe god does not see it that way, and to him a really serious sin like assualt, torture etc, is no different than a lie like telling a police officer that our friend is very ill in hospital when caught speeding or something like that.

I think whatever the sins we commit are, we are forgiven when we truly repent, as in regret them and truly wish to not commit them again, even if we do sin that way again.
It took us a while in most cases to develop the sinful habits and ways of living that we did, and it may take a while to undevelop them. And while god, I am sure, can just blast all our stuff like that away instantly, it would probably be such a huge shock to us, we wouldnt be able to cope. God is a loving god, who does not want to do that to us, - so he will out of love lead us at a pace we can manage,towards the life he wants us to lead.

I also remember a specific incident that happened to me one week, after I had been thinking the way you are, (that i had not changed and was still sinning etc). Anyway was on holiday camping, and next to me, I overheard a couple arguing, and it was getting really nasty between them. Ive heard worse out drinking or in the city etc, but the guy was yelling at the woman to get off his f--king back, shut the f--k up and f--k off (or similar cant remember exact words)

Having been living in the inner city that sort of thing was hardly new to me.

However on this occasion, which was the first tiem Id heard a domestic like that since starting to go to a church, it really shocked and upset me! After having met and hung out with christians at my church for the last couple of months and seeing only love and respect being shown by these people to their partners, friends, and me.

And as I was feeling this shock and dismay at the way this couple spoke to each other it was as though god said to me, 'see how far you have come already'. and it made me realise that though there are so many things I am still very sinful about, how much I had already started to change...

Chances are you are feeling bad about your sin, as a result of the changes god is making in you. If God were not active in your life, you would probably not care about your sins, so the fact you are upset about it enough to post here proves he is there and working on you, maybe just not as fast as you had hoped.

Anyway I just wanted to say, that if you know you geniunely gave yourself to jesus, and you know that you do want to not sin (even if you are still sinning now), then you can be assured that you are saved, as this is promised to us in the bible.

I would suggest you pray in your own words about it ( I dont see the point myself in praying in anything but very much my own words, i figure he knows what im thinking anyway, so no point in trying to pretty it up lol) and ask for help and guidance and admit that you are not able to stop your sins whatever they are, on your own strength, that you need his, and let him help you. You can also ask for guidance and a message or sign from him if there are specific things you have done that he wants to deal with, with you
 
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we can not know. We just have to believe. Nobody knows for sure what is on Gods mind and who will be saved.
When the end comes, then we will know. Not before that. Not for sure.
You just have to believe, and give your life to God. In the end we will see what happens.
 
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we can not know. We just have to believe. Nobody knows for sure what is on Gods mind and who will be saved.
When the end comes, then we will know. Not before that. Not for sure.
You just have to believe, and give your life to God. In the end we will see what happens.

Of course we can know! We are told with all certainty what God has done in order to save us by His Word which is found in Holy Scriptures.
 
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This is the beginning of learning to stand on God's word. Throughout your life you will find it difficult to trust that God's policies are as sensible as your own (yes, laughing is appropriate here). It is an exercise of faith -- over and over -- to read His claims and trust that they will work, and that they are true. He really means what He says.

So, if you have read what Jesus claimed was adequate for redemption and salvation, and have gone through the repentance/belief processes you wrote of above, then that is it. Now stand firmly on the fact that you did it as simply as He presented the offer.
 
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I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God that you may know that you have eternal life. -1John 5:13
The verb "know" that John uses there has the connotation of empirical knowledge; to perceive with the eyes; to be aware of.

I have said these things to you, that in me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation. But take heart; I have overcome the world.” -John 16:33​

When you are under full assault from the devil, you will need to put on the helmet of salvation, along with the rest of the armor, as Eph. 6 instructs. Not, I might be saved; not, I hope I'm saved; but, Jesus promised I'm am saved, and Jesus never lies. If we're not walking in the knowledge of our authority over our adversary, we are going to be in trouble.
 
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Just look in the mirror and see yourself as Jesus sees you - washed in the Blood of Jesus, white as snow - all your sins have been cast into the sea of forgetfulness - God sees them no more.

When you go back and ask forgiveness for sins that have already been forgiven - God says 'what sins' - He sees them no more.
 
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You can know in your heart if you are saved.

1Co 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

Being a christian is a lifestyle -ask the holy spirit into your life. Its a spiritual growing process that is lifelong. Your desire to want to become more christ like is evidence alone you are saved.

Those who arn't saved can't understand the things of God as they are spiritually discerned-

1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
 
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I'm new at this and wanted some clarification. I accepted Jesus and repented of my sins, sometimes I fall back into my sin but I ask for forgiveness and walk away with a intention not to do it again. That's what I understood from the bible. Then I read so many things on the internet that say you have to do this and that and I just end up being confused. Sometimes I get depressed because I don't think that I doing it right. Can someone who has a thorough understanding of the bible tell me? I would really appreciate it. THANKS

When you read what Paul wrote about the Christian Doctrines, do you understand what he means? Do you know what Imputed Righteousness means, for example?
 
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If you have found Christ then the next step is to be baptized. It's a command for believers. I highly encourage you to be baptized.


"John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth One among you, whom ye know not; ... And I knew Him not: but He that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon Whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on Him, the same is He which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost."(John 1 vs 26,33)

Baptized with the Holy Spirit into Jesus' death and raised with Him in newness of life, reckoning our bodies as dead to sin but alive to God.
(Rom.6v3 and Gal.3v27)
 
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