How do you feel about climate change? Is it affecting our world negatively?

Cimorene said:

As a basic rule of thumb, if you wouldn't be allowed to use a source for a HS level science research paper then it's not a credible source. No way would any reputable teacher accept a YouTube video from a far-right fluff site as a source.

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So, you could uses CNN as a source... even though they have been shown to be biased and in error many times... because it is accepted as a credible source by your teacher? Why is that.. a "far left" would be accepted but a "far right" is not?

You should think about that for a bit...

JacksBratt said:

Surprisingly enough.. even in our elder years... there are disagreements.

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Some of that age might disagree there are disagreements lol

Zanting said:

Did you read his post? Pretty harsh words for simply disagreeing...but to each his own.

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I have to wonder how carefully you've read posts around here that don't say what you want to read. On account of how even though I referred to her as a gal, even though she's got a female picture and lists herself as female, you kept referring to her as a he. The inability to correctly understand what is plainly evident kinda sums up climate change denial in a nutshell.

JacksBratt said:

So, you could uses CNN as a source... even though they have been shown to be biased and in error many times... because it is accepted as a credible source by your teacher? Why is that.. a "far left" would be accepted but a "far right" is not?

You should think about that for a bit...

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Where has she posted anything from CNN in this thread? They do have a bias sure but are more prone to using proper sources than the "Rebel Media" site. CNN Bias and Credibility Rating - Media Bias/Fact Check

Here's a handy guide for vetting sources:
Tips to identify whether a source is scholarly and reliable

JacksBratt said:

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Way to keep things classy and really set an example for younger folks around here on how a senior citizen Christian ought to behave. /s

Praise the good Lord Almighty most teens nowadays have attained enough education and sense to know that the Earth isn't flat and climate change is a genuine problem. That doesn't = to having a know it all attitude.

Go Braves said:

Way to keep things classy and really set an example for younger folks around here on how a senior citizen Christian ought to behave. /s

Praise the good Lord Almighty most teens nowadays have attained enough education and sense to know that the Earth isn't flat and climate change is a genuine problem. That doesn't = to having a know it all attitude.

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How much education is that?

Go Braves said:

Where has she posted anything from CNN in this thread? They do have a bias sure but are more prone to using proper sources than the "Rebel Media" site. CNN Bias and Credibility Rating - Media Bias/Fact Check

Here's a handy guide for vetting sources:
Tips to identify whether a source is scholarly and reliable

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I'm not saying that she has posted anything from CNN... I doubt, very much, that a teacher would exclude CNN from being a valid source. That was my point.

Do you think that at teacher would allow or deny CNN as a source?

My main point was that you cannot state that, since something was presented on a certain media source... that it is therefore wrong or false...


That was my point.

JacksBratt said:

My main point was that you cannot state that, since something was presented on a certain media source... that it is therefore wrong or false...

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FOX would agree, but like the others not referring to themselves of course. The fruit is in the W5.. who, what ,when, where, why. Noting about commentator opinion.People once worked that out for themselves when thinking was still an option.

JacksBratt said:

It's not done in the way you think.. It's not a "here's $500,000, go promote climate change.

It's more of a "you support data that is contrary to climate change and the politics behind it.. we can no longer support your research as we don't recognize your data as being valid."

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Then show evidence of that. Lay it out, everything you know about the conspiracy, and the evidence. Who, what , when, where, how.

Sparagmos said:

Then show evidence of that. Lay it out, everything you know about the conspiracy, and the evidence. Who, what , when, where, how.

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The evidence is all around you.. Even here on this thread..

Just look at the ridicule, the insults to ones intelligence and the condescension that is dished out to those in the media, politics, forums, anywhere....

when you state that you don't conform to any of the dogma's of this age...

Whether you are right or wrong... if you do not hold to what is being presented as the ultimate truth... you are centered out. Called a "tinfoil hatter", "hucksters", "Trump supporters", " deniers".. compared to other topics that are unrelated.. FE for example...

I even posted a video of a professor who stated that it is the "gravy train" of those who present it... Another MIT professor with interesting facts...

But..........no.... you think that this ends at threads like this? You think that the bashing and insulting that Trump got for denying the farce of Climate change ends there and that scientists, who depend on grant money and financial support.. are going to have companies and foundations with their names attached to anyone who denies the "climate change" panic?

It all flows down hill from there.. Your scientist that you fund... denies climate change.. Your cannot have your money attached to that.. Your share holders would pull their funding from you... and on and on it goes...

But... you want "evidence". That is the problem.. all you have to do is look around you and think for a second.

Would you continue to fund a program that stood up and denied climate change? Would you put your money in their research? Would you want your friends to find out that Dr. YYYY and his team funded by "Insert your name here" is presenting a talk on the errors of man made climate change?

JacksBratt said:

The evidence is all around you.. Even here on this thread..

Just look at the ridicule, the insults to ones intelligence and the condescension that is dished out to those in the media, politics, forums, anywhere....

when you state that you don't conform to any of the dogma's of this age...

Whether you are right or wrong... if you do not hold to what is being presented as the ultimate truth... you are centered out. Called a "tinfoil hatter", "hucksters", "Trump supporters", " deniers".. compared to other topics that are unrelated.. FE for example...

I even posted a video of a professor who stated that it is the "gravy train" of those who present it... Another MIT professor with interesting facts...

But..........no.... you think that this ends at threads like this? You think that the bashing and insulting that Trump got for denying the farce of Climate change ends there and that scientists, who depend on grant money and financial support.. are going to have companies and foundations with their names attached to anyone who denies the "climate change" panic?

It all flows down hill from there.. Your scientist that you fund... denies climate change.. Your cannot have your money attached to that.. Your share holders would pull their funding from you... and on and on it goes...

But... you want "evidence". That is the problem.. all you have to do is look around you and think for a second.

Would you continue to fund a program that stood up and denied climate change? Would you put your money in their research? Would you want your friends to find out that Dr. YYYY and his team funded by "Insert your name here" is presenting a talk on the errors of man made climate change?

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So...you got nothing.

If ridicule is proof that you are right, the flat earthers must be right too, eh? And the anti-vaxxers and people who believe Hillary is a lizard.

JacksBratt said:

FE and Climate change are totally unconnected. Both are theories. Both are debated. Both have people backing and denouncing them using science...but.. totally different topics.

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Ok, last response to you bc I'm not fond of repeating myself or having fruitless conversations.

Once again, yes climate change denial and belief that the Earth is flat are connected though they're two separate issues. The bridge between them are the attitudes about both. Both are science denialism, anti-intellectualism. There are a few people who only adhere to one form of science denialism but frequently there's an overlap, either with these 2 specifically or a combination of 2 or more other conspiracy theories / pseudosciences (that man and dinosaurs walked alongside one another; AV, etc).

With both there are exceptionally few who are actually qualified professional scientists who denounce either. With both it's common for legitimate work to be quote-mined dishonestly. With both there's legions of armchair believers who go by YouTube and old-school social media for their "support" of their beliefs.

Second... If you had taken the time to look into my view, on the FE, a bit further.. you would see that I am not a believer in the FE.. just a searcher of truth. I find problems with both models.

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Lol. Quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, smells like a duck. I already squandered time looking into your "FE" views in the Conspiracy Theory section.

This is deflecting the fact that you attacked me about a totally different topic and an erroneous assumption of my stance on that subject. All based on other threads and used in an attempt to discredit anything I say. Or, group me with people that, in your opinion are in error.

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Oh please. I'm not deflecting anything. I never attacked you in any manner whatsoever. If you thought I had the mature & appropriate response would be to report the post, not "flame in turn", which you unequivocally did.

I think it's completely reasonable to be weary of any adult who thinks that he is "searching for the truth" about whether the Earth is flat & favours conspiracy theories.

Well things aren't always what we expect.

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Though they often are.

I would disagree. People of high intelligence and with a lot of education have widely varying opinions on many subjects and topics.

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Uh huh. That's a sleight of hand. Very few people of high intelligence who have a lot of education on climate change have a denialist stance. Very, very few people of high intelligence who have a lot of education are skeptical of the facts showing that the Earth is not flat.

I don't doubt that.. Not everyone in the years beyond 50 agree on all topics.. Surprisingly enough.. even in our elder years... there are disagreements.

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Lol, we all very well know that not everyone beyond 50 agrees on all topics. Again, there's very little disagreement between the basic facts of climate change between climate scientists.

Is this supposed to be some sort of support for your view?

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It's a support of my view about your posts & your attitude overall.

Hey! I got a notice that somebody gifted me with being a Supporter bc of one of my posts in this thread!!!! It doesn't tell me who bought it, so Idk who to thank. But whoever you are:

THANKS!

T'wern't me.
But I just want to say as an almost a goner, at this point, I'd be happy to turn the world over to someone of your mental agility and character. Of course that may change down the road as may you also.