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When science refutes it, will you?
My ears are burning!
I never followed a circus, but I do get good seats when it comes to town.
Why should she beware?
If you can show me testable evidence to support the Biblical claims about Jesus that is SUPPORTED by those tests, I will accept it.
For a start, perhaps you can reconcile the Biblical claim that the moon is a source of light with the scientific fact that the moon only reflects light and does not produce any light of its own?
The Bible says the Moon is a light source.
By reading like you'd read other involved, complex books, to get the real situations -- that in order to understand a sentence or paragraph somewhere correctly, you must have read what is before it, the previous parts of that book, for each of the books. And more -- some of the books are like a series also, such as most of the early books of the Old Testament. Often the first 5 are grouped together, but actually much that happens in the 6th book only makes any sense from already knowing books 2-5. Altogether, many parts of the first 17 books are cross dependent on other sections in other books, so that to get the real situation in book 6 or book 11 you need to already know book 2-4, and several parts of 7,8,10 etc.
So when you encounter something like the pillars of the Earth cry out (or whatever you are seeing in the text), you know instantly if it is figurative wording because you've been reading through from the beginning of that book.
Of course, that means to get what's happening a person must really be a reader or get caught up in the whole of it, otherwise they are only in the situation of someone that picks up a random book in the library and opens to a random page and reads a sentence or paragraph without knowing the situation, and then merely has guesses about what is happening.
When people are doing that guessing -- which is also common among believers too -- then they tend to merely read onto (lay on top of) the text whatever they expect or think as their own pet theories.
Since only some people these days read through all (meaning not 40% or 70%, but 98%+), many people are just groping in the dark and having wrong conclusions. That's why you can't rely on some website to tell you what something means, but have to read through yourself fully. And of course sympathetically, so as to get the intended meaning instead of one's own preconception. Having fully read, one can then gauge the accuracy of any commentary in that you will know if the writer of the commentary knows the full text.
For example, if someone thinks Sodom was destroyed because it had gay people or homosexuality in it, then I know with certainty that they have not read through the Old Testament. Without having read through the OT myself, I wouldn't be able to discern when someone is making up their own pet theory. I'd be at the mercy of people claiming they read a lot (who in reality did not or are poor readers, or are merely parroting claims they saw somewhere and pretending).
Here's a great example -- if you see someone take a phrasing like: " who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain" and then assert it definitely is saying the stars are like a 2 dimensional blanket/curtain, that this is the intended meaning, you know instantly they are lying.
Even if one merely had read only the very next verse, they'd see through that kind of lie.
Psalm 104 KJV
So, just as it is with any believer, anyone in any church, you also won't know what the text means (or have a chance to know) unless you read through full books entirely. They don't know without that, and you won't either.
That's easy since Jesus IS the Creator physically. He is the ONLY God ever formed physically or that ever will be formed physically. Isa 43:10 He told us that "every living creature that moveth" was created and brought forth from WATER on the 5th Day. Gen 1:21 Science confirmed this Fact last year.
www.smithsonianmag.com/.../behold-luca-last-universal-common-ancestor-life-earth-...
Jul 26, 2016
That's God's Truth from 3k years ago and man's scientific truth from last year. They AGREE showing that only God could have authored Genesis so long ago...unless you can explain HOW ancient men could have possibly known this?
Don't you know that today is the Day of Judgment and that every idle word must be accounted for later today? Mat 12:36
It's not you.
Easy, since the Bible does NOT say it is. What it says is that it rules the night.
Gen 1:17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, Gen 1:18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
Bearing false witness is wrong.
The Moon is a source of Light even if it is reflected from the Sun.
No, that would be the backwards reasoning.So you take what the Bible says, see if reality matches it. If the Bible and reality match, then the passage in question is literal. If the Bible and reality don't match, then the Bible is being metaphorical because reality can't be wrong.
So why not forget the Bible and go with reality, since it's obvious that reality, not the Bible, is the best measure of what is real.
Absolutely, since it takes the agreement of Scripture Science and History to arrive at God's Truth which is the Truth in every way.
Because some will report your post even when it is unworthy of reporting.
They make a game out of trying to remove those from the board who disagree with their godless viewpoint.
Reminds me of Trump tactics.
No, that would be the backwards reasoning.
Find any verse anywhere you think is contrary to science, any, then read that chapter to see the literary style being used. The full chapter.
No one can make you do that.
You have to choose to, or not.
If you want good faith help, I'm willing to look over any one or two instances you like.
You should, if you read the chapter link I offered, have seen the style of Genesis chapter one as having figurative wording.
"...without form and void..."
I kinda figured that it wasn't me.
But why should I beware? What will they do to me?
Quote mining is also wrong. Why don't you give us the passage BEFORE what you quoted? Specifically, Genesis 1:16?
If the moon is reflecting light that came from the Sun, then the moon isn't exactly the SOURCE of that light, is it?
In my house, the light from the bathroom can shine out the bathroom door, hit the wall in the hallway and then bounce into the bedroom. It's bright enough that even with no other lights on, I can clearly see what is on the bedroom floor. Yet, the bathroom light itself is blocked from view. All that can be seen from the bedroom is the wall in the hallway that the bathroom light is illuminating.
Would it be correct for me to say that the hallway wall is a lightsource?
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