How do you avoid getting punished by god for this?

[frankieberg1985]

As we all know, no single person in every socities around the world has a normal relationship, I mean love that is, you say you can just regret every bad action and sin, but how do you get away with not getting real love?

 

[Dave G.]

True love comes from God, agape love. You can read about His kind of love in 1 Corinthians 13. It speaks about real love not just the mushy stuff that doesn't last. By coming to the Son of God and receiving the Spirit of God you come to learn love and to love more and more. To the point that you can love your neighbor. You can love the person but not the sin in their lives.

God loves you, He hates your separation from Him and your sin but He loves you. Even though you chose to and continue to ignore that He exists, He still loves you.

 

[Mark Quayle]

As we all know, no single person in every socities around the world has a normal relationship, I mean love that is, you say you can just regret every bad action and sin, but how do you get away with not getting real love?

Can you restate? Are you hinting at something and justifying it? Explain that last phrase, particularly.

 

[frankieberg1985]

True love comes from God, agape love. You can read about His kind of love in 1 Corinthians 13. It speaks about real love not just the mushy stuff that doesn't last. By coming to the Son of God and receiving the Spirit of God you come to learn love and to love more and more. To the point that you can love your neighbor. You can love the person but not the sin in their lives.

God loves you, He hates your separation from Him and your sin but He loves you. Even though you chose to ignore that He exists, He still loves you.

I feel so terrible being among normal people I don`t think he really loves me anymore

 

[frankieberg1985]

Can you restate? Are you hinting at something and justifying it? Explain that last phrase, particularly.

Well, if you don`t go after real love, I mean a normal relationship, you don`t make the other person really happy ether, I mean truly happy, isn`t that a sin really?

 

[Mark Quayle]

Well, if you don`t go after real love, I mean a normal relationship, you don`t make the other person really happy ether, I mean truly happy, isn`t that a sin really?

What other person? I'm assuming here you are talking relationship involving sexual relations. The normal, the default, is no sex, followed closely for "normal" by marriage. Who are you talking about making happy? Satisfaction of the partner is more to the point, in marriage, though to be honest, I think continual affection and deference shown does more for the other person than a sexual climax. Outside of marriage, sexual relations is wrong, period.

To fail in either respect is not in itself a sin. The reason you fail may well be.

I keep hearing questions like this, that to my mind show a lopsided worldview, where sins are focused on, instead of God. Sin, in my opinion, is much more urgent to deal with than to get hung up on sins. What is in the heart controls what the body does.

 

[frankieberg1985]

What other person? I'm assuming here you are talking relationship involving sexual relations. The normal, the default, is no sex, followed closely for "normal" by marriage. Who are you talking about making happy? Satisfaction of the partner is more to the point, in marriage, though to be honest, I think continual affection and deference shown does more for the other person than a sexual climax. Outside of marriage, sexual relations is wrong, period.

To fail in either respect is not in itself a sin. The reason you fail may well be.

I keep hearing questions like this, that to my mind show a lopsided worldview, where sins are focused on, instead of God. Sin, in my opinion, is much more urgent to deal with than to get hung up on sins. What is in the heart controls what the body does.

I was just talking about normal relationships not sex or marriage

 

[Mark Quayle]

I was just talking about normal relationships not sex or marriage

Then, no. It isn't your job to make them happy. To get to know them, maybe. Be yourself. And remember it isn't their job to make you happy. Take it easy.

 

[frankieberg1985]

Then, no. It isn't your job to make them happy. To get to know them, maybe. Be yourself. And remember it isn't their job to make you happy. Take it easy.

I think god perhaps disagrees with you since everyone wants love in their lifes

 

[crossnote]

but how do you get away with not getting real love?

by realizing I'm just as big of a sinner as the one I expect love from but who doesn't deliver.

 

[frankieberg1985]

by realizing I'm just as big of a sinner as the one I expect love from but who doesn't deliver.

So you do get angry for not getting real love perhaps?

 

[Dave G.]

I feel so terrible being among normal people I don`t think he really loves me anymore

As I know God ( what I know of His nature) I feel pretty free to state that you couln't be more wrong.

 

[frankieberg1985]

As I know God ( what I know of His nature) I feel pretty free to state that you couln't be more wrong.

When are life getting good then?

 

[Mark Quayle]

I think god perhaps disagrees with you since everyone wants love in their lifes

It isn't smart to force love, nor even friendship. Love of that sort should come by itself.

Kindness, yes, generosity and helpfulness, consideration, thoughtfulness, respect --all those things and more are your job, even brotherly love as a duty, but their reaction to you is not your responsibility. To put it in the vernacular, it is right to defer to your friend and even to forgive his misdeeds, but not to kiss his ***

 

[frankieberg1985]

It isn't smart to force love, nor even friendship. Love of that sort should come by itself.

Kindness, yes, generosity and helpfulness, consideration, thoughtfulness, respect --all those things and more are your job, even brotherly love as a duty, but their reaction to you is not your responsibility. To put it in the vernacular, it is right to defer to your friend and even to forgive his misdeeds, but not to kiss his ***

I can`t help it, but I feel believers are always twisting things to get it their ways because they don`t really believe anyways

 

[Dave G.]

When are life getting good then?

You're like a child who wants your cake and eat it too !

 

[frankieberg1985]

You're like a child who wants your cake and eat it too !

Are you saying life shouldn`t be good?

 

[Mark Quayle]

I can`t help it, but I feel believers are always twisting things to get it their ways because they don`t really believe anyways

Often. Yes.

 

[frankieberg1985]

Often. Yes.

But not you?

 

[Mark Quayle]

But not you?

The Bible is pretty clear that if a believer belongs to God, his life will demonstrate a change, most particularly in obedience to what a person knows is right. By that measure, I am unable to justify myself.

Yet I find myself unable to deny what I say that I believe, and my heart is unable to remain antagonistic to what I know is right. I very dearly desire closeness with my Creator.

If you knew me personally, I would have to say, decide for yourself what I really believe. I thank God that he is the one in the end who decides. Justice is beautiful.