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How do we identify a Progressive?

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I don't see why we would want to do otherwise. We know the Trads will not come here because they can't stand the pressure. Anyone else who comes here has the necessary mental fortutude.
Careful there with the grouping of all Traditionals to be like that. ;) Even though I doubt you meant it to sound as judgemental as it did, the wording can come off wrong.

Aren't we all the same in the eyes of God? :)

That's what's so sad about all of this in the first place. Yes, sometimes people just want to share or discuss without opposing feelings being involved (such as in debate). Thusly it causes problems when people have such strongly opposing beliefs. This in itself is okay, to have a "Safe area" to go when you want that kind of interaction. However, it gets negative when it becomes a sectioning off of people and judgemental attitude.

I think people should be able to respect eachother and love eachother enough to not be aprehensive or allow friction to be present when those with different views decide to speak with eachother. :)

Just my two cents.
 
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RC. I have to disagree. Last week when I was trolling for votes. I kept running into it. The Progressives were asking for a place to call home. There are more out there and they want a place to gather free from attack, free to fellowship. I heard this over and over and over again.

Then why won't more of them come and participate in the rule-making process now that they can have some influence in reshaping the SDA forum and sub-forums?
 
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My point is not that we should not have a progressive sub-forum that is already voted and accepted. Utilzation is still a question that time will tell. But right now we should be talking about rules. And I don't see the need to bar anyone from the progressive sub-forum. That I think is the way a traditional wants to be but it does not seem to me to be the way a progressive should act.

I agree.

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Amen,

Hopefull all will see segragation is wrong, just like Martin Luther King Jr. tried to teach many years ago..........

And for once I agree with Red. :D
 
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To be honest, I don't think I fully fit into either because I'm such a newbie to Christianity. :sorry: There are still some issues within the 28 beliefs that I don't even know enough about to make an educated discission about at this point. Regardless, though..I'd never think any less of someone if they believed differently..because we are all on our own journey with God and I cannot judge the status of another person's journey by my own. . . .

Anyway, if my opinion counts..I don't like the division either, but if we're going to have it I'd like to see a moderate option for those of us who don't fit in perfectly in either side. :)

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This is one reason that I am in favor of opening up the PSDA sub-forum to everyone. There are some who don't know where they fit. I used to be one of them. Do we have to label everyone? I don't think the hardcore TSDAs will want to post here much anyway, even if it is open.
 
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I don't think its necessary to attempt to identify who is what. Just because those who consider themselves traditional and want to define people with labels doesn't mean we have to.... why can't we just interact in this area without all the garbage and baggage that exists in the other areas? Can we just stick to one rule against flaming and then discuss whatever we wish to our hearts content?

I don't see why we would want to do otherwise. We know the Trads will not come here because they can't stand the pressure. Anyone else who comes here has the necessary mental fortutude.

Exactly.
 
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This is one reason that I am in favor of opening up the PSDA sub-forum to everyone. There are some who don't know where they fit. I used to be one of them. Do we have to label everyone? I don't think the hardcore TSDAs will want to post here much anyway, even if it is open.
That's very true. I also know that since I'm "on the fence" so-to-speak, I'd just be posting certain topics on the different subforums depending on the type of input I'm looking for. If I want input on a subject from more of an official/traditional standpoint, or wish to discuss with people of that kind of belief..I will go there. If I'm looking to see people's opinions about subjects that go beyond that, I'd simply go here. :)
 
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