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How do science explain this phenomenon?

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Concerning mircales, and i say this with documents in my hand. On People in rehabilitation of drugs. 100% of the people it works well for after the rehabilitation, had associations with a church. A christian church. The others relapse, end up insane because of the penalism on the rehabilation home, or in the morg.
I had a friend once that had a leg blown off by a claymore mine in viet nam. He use to go to a meeting at the vet hospital for veterans that had lost limbs during the war. He said as a Christian he had something to deal with the problems he was having. The people who were not Christians did not have anything and it was a lot more difficult for them.

Science does all that science can do. Then it is time for people to trust in God to help them with their needs.
 
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I had a friend once that had a leg blown off by a claymore mine in viet nam. He use to go to a meeting at the vet hospital for veterans that had lost limbs during the war. He said as a Christian he had something to deal with the problems he was having. The people who were not Christians did not have anything and it was a lot more difficult for them.

Science does all that science can do. Then it is time for people to trust in God to help them with their needs.

The existence of something is not determined by how nice it is to believe in.
 
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The existence of something is not determined by how nice it is to believe in.

Right, and by the way, there was TONS more people thanking Allah for their fast recovery than YHWH of the Bible.

So... based on amount of testimony, shouldn't we all be Muslim?
 
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Call it american prisons. The miracles happaning in prisons are in touch with a church... Hence REPENT from wicked deeds...

Drugdealers and drugaddicts that are connected to a church repent sooner or later from their wicked deeds. I believe it will be easier for a drugdealer to find peace with God then a middle class scientists supporter married and have children. I don't know why, but many times I get that impression.

I, myself was a drugdealer in my teens, I repented and found peace with God. And I think what you should do instead of binding afflicted to tobacco and alchohol, is loosen them from it. For it is written in the bible, what you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and what you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Now! I know and I met doctors who actually try to exalt themself over the knowledge of God. There is no fear of God before their eyes. They teach the afflicted that somethings they been exposed to are unforgivable teaching them to be unforgivable. They do not loose the bonds of the afflicted. There is no fear of God before their eyes - a cognitive model taught that it was ok to call the Holy Ghost for keuf. That's wickedness!!! Yyou should have respect for the Holy Ghost, because of Jesus teachings in the gospels. These haughty people taught losts sheeps and losts sons, to rebell against God. We don't have mandate to fight against doctors. And doctors do not have the mandate brainwash young teenagers to shout "I Blespheme the Holy Ghost" or calling him "Keuf". Yet the doctors i've met during rehabiliation from drugs working as cognitive models, taught that.

Darkness is a codeword for ignorance- I only have bad experiences with rehab and clinical doctors, proffessing to be models for young teenagers who are involved with criminality.

Now what i think you should do instead of binding the afflicted is to loose them from the bonds. Cut off all unrighteous bonds bound on earth, such as tobacco and alchohol. Because I honestly doubt that you gain anything, at all, from binding the afflicted to these things.

In america criminal teens are brainwashed to say that "God is a crutch for weakminded". In sweden the criminal teens are brainwashed to shout "I blespheme the Holy Ghost". The same people ending up in criminal gangs, such as "Hells Angels" and "Bandidos". They are also taught not to forgive others.

No, Now when i look back on my time in rehabiliation from drugs, it is like noone ever wanted me to stop using drugs or be uprighted. I was taught to drink coffee and smoke tobacco all day long, just sitting and doing nothing in my home during rehabiliation. Sometimes i even suspect that rehabiliation on purpose bound me in tobacco so hard only God can free me from that. Sometimes I even suspect that the rehabiliations crew actually wanted me to relapse in drugs, and becomeing even worse then before, even more wicked then I was in my teens. That is the impression I got, it is a hint.

But God had other plans for me! I am no drugaddict or alchoholic. I am not a Hells Angels or Bandidos member. I don't deal drugs, I don't. I don't own weapons of any kind.

I gonna tell you what I was taught in rehabiliation, to do moneyloundering, to rob banks, to manufactor crack cocaine, to commit fraud, to manipulating tax so i become exposed to tax evation, In rehabiliation i was taught to shed blood, I was taught all this and even more within the swedish rehabilitation equivalent to american prisons. And now I don't have any use of anything I been taught there: In my case i see a connection between my link to Jesus, and repenting from wicked deeds. In a book from pantecostal church I read about people living in misery who are freed from drugs, violence and alchohol thanks to Christ.

May I ask, and this is relevant, because I need to be enlightened here on science subforum :doh:oh i forgot the darkness... How do science explain that. And i take my observation from my lifeexperiences just as valuable information as any other on these forum. Science it is, and science shall we talk. How, from my story, from my experinece, how do science explain it??? How do science explain i am such a perfect indivudal today, clean, pure, without blemish even though I ended up in the devils hands!!!?
 
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Parhaps Benny Hinn is a man of God anyways. A bird whispered in my ear that now when the time is at hand those who were not healed of his ministries got healed. It is just that I couldn't feel any love around him, and when I asked the spirit behind his minsitries if it confessed that Jesus is the Son of God that came in the flesh, it answered no.

and the bible corrected me... I don't know, i just feel for that girl on the second tape. that fear in the eyes is not what a child should feel when it is in the church...
 
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Call it american prisons. The miracles happaning in prisons are in touch with a church... Hence REPENT from wicked deeds...

Drugdealers and drugaddicts that are connected to a church repent sooner or later from their wicked deeds. I believe it will be easier for a drugdealer to find peace with God then a middle class scientists supporter married and have children. I don't know why, but many times I get that impression.

I, myself was a drugdealer in my teens, I repented and found peace with God. And I think what you should do instead of binding afflicted to tobacco and alchohol, is loosen them from it. For it is written in the bible, what you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and what you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Now! I know and I met doctors who actually try to exalt themself over the knowledge of God. There is no fear of God before their eyes. They teach the afflicted that somethings they been exposed to are unforgivable teaching them to be unforgivable. They do not loose the bonds of the afflicted. There is no fear of God before their eyes - a cognitive model taught that it was ok to call the Holy Ghost for keuf. That's wickedness!!! Yyou should have respect for the Holy Ghost, because of Jesus teachings in the gospels. These haughty people taught losts sheeps and losts sons, to rebell against God. We don't have mandate to fight against doctors. And doctors do not have the mandate brainwash young teenagers to shout "I Blespheme the Holy Ghost" or calling him "Keuf". Yet the doctors i've met during rehabiliation from drugs working as cognitive models, taught that.

Darkness is a codeword for ignorance- I only have bad experiences with rehab and clinical doctors, proffessing to be models for young teenagers who are involved with criminality.

Now what i think you should do instead of binding the afflicted is to loose them from the bonds. Cut off all unrighteous bonds bound on earth, such as tobacco and alchohol. Because I honestly doubt that you gain anything, at all, from binding the afflicted to these things.

In america criminal teens are brainwashed to say that "God is a crutch for weakminded". In sweden the criminal teens are brainwashed to shout "I blespheme the Holy Ghost". The same people ending up in criminal gangs, such as "Hells Angels" and "Bandidos". They are also taught not to forgive others.

No, Now when i look back on my time in rehabiliation from drugs, it is like noone ever wanted me to stop using drugs or be uprighted. I was taught to drink coffee and smoke tobacco all day long, just sitting and doing nothing in my home during rehabiliation. Sometimes i even suspect that rehabiliation on purpose bound me in tobacco so hard only God can free me from that. Sometimes I even suspect that the rehabiliations crew actually wanted me to relapse in drugs, and becomeing even worse then before, even more wicked then I was in my teens. That is the impression I got, it is a hint.

But God had other plans for me! I am no drugaddict or alchoholic. I am not a Hells Angels or Bandidos member. I don't deal drugs, I don't. I don't own weapons of any kind.

I gonna tell you what I was taught in rehabiliation, to do moneyloundering, to rob banks, to manufactor crack cocaine, to commit fraud, to manipulating tax so i become exposed to tax evation, In rehabiliation i was taught to shed blood, I was taught all this and even more within the swedish rehabilitation equivalent to american prisons. And now I don't have any use of anything I been taught there: In my case i see a connection between my link to Jesus, and repenting from wicked deeds. In a book from pantecostal church I read about people living in misery who are freed from drugs, violence and alchohol thanks to Christ.

May I ask, and this is relevant, because I need to be enlightened here on science subforum :doh:oh i forgot the darkness... How do science explain that. And i take my observation from my lifeexperiences just as valuable information as any other on these forum. Science it is, and science shall we talk. How, from my story, from my experinece, how do science explain it??? How do science explain i am such a perfect indivudal today, clean, pure, without blemish even though I ended up in the devils hands!!!?

I call you a liar. Nothing you wrote here, except possibly your suspicions, are true.
 
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So why did my rehab doctor call Holy Ghost keuf if he didn't do that?
I don't know the word keuf, do you refer to the swedish word "kuf"?
Don't really have a translation for it but tyda.se gives:

Kuf:
Oddball
Original
Fish
Codger
Fogey
Fuddy-Duddy
 
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Let's talk about something else instead, let's go back to the topic, because honeslty the nightmare i had with in rehabiliation for drugusage is something i want to forget. I find china to be more merciful to their drugdealers then sweden. Because is china the shot the hunged man with a tank after he has been hunged. In sweden it it goes so far that the dealer is forced to tie the snare himself.

Let's talk about what science cannot explain instead. Do you believe there are things science cannot explain?
 
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In sweden it it goes so far that the dealer is forced to tie the snare himself.
False, but as you say:
Let's talk about what science cannot explain instead. Do you believe there are things science cannot explain?
Sure, science cannot explain everything. Right now. It might be able to explain everything in the future, but that seems highly unlikely.
 
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Both natural science and social science...

Another good thing, is when someone says something that is hurtful, a so called punch under the belt. How do natural science explain that? You know when people are being rude.

You see there are alot of other facualities within the universities other the natural sciences which is untangable to natural sciences to comprehend or explain.

Languages is one and theology is another.
 
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