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I don't recall that there is video of the events that took place in Fatima.
What light does the moon give off?
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I don't recall that there is video of the events that took place in Fatima.I watched the video.
Never heard Jesus mentioned once.
As far as "pointing" to God.
What does that mean.
As far as believing in God.
The devils do that.
Could be first impressions, even as we have heard the saying, "if it quacks like a duck" its typically a duck.
That sort of thing
Who are you, and by what authority, do you judge what's proper and what's not?Parables and symbolism, something your church has yet to recognize properly. You're so keen on what Christ plainly said, tell me why is it that you don't recognize His words when He said: "Give place, for the maid is not dead, but sleepeth"?
And notice how the souls under the altar are told to rest. Please don't tell me you think that all the souls in heaven are literally under the altar taking a break?
Well, it is the sole property of the Church Christ instituted, because His Church is One.I'm sorry, I didn't know that prayer was the sole property of the Catholic church. When did that happen?
Why would the HOly Spirit reflect back to God when the Holy Spirit IS God?Here I was thinking that was the job of the Holy Spirit.
Even God speaks in a still, small voice. He doesn't jump up and down and say Here I am!. Those who don't give Mary her due don't get the privilege. Same with the Eucharist.I'm going to have to look those up
So your reverence to Mary is why you're privileged to see these manifestations?
If it's human, yes. But if it's divine flesh, no. You eat beef, that's not cannibalism, but it's flesh...If you're eating flesh and blood it's cannibalism.
No, they don't. They have traditions and Scripture. We have Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture. We have traditions, as well, but our traditions don't explain Scripture like our Traditions do.I'm not refusing to realize it. I just don't make the distinction when I type. I was hoping by context you could tell what I was referring to. Either way it doesn't take away from what I said. The Jews had their holy Tradition much the same as your church does now. That Tradition was held above the word of God and lead to them missing out on His first coming. Many will miss out on the second one as well for the same reason.
Being human and alive is painful, too. Ridiculously painful. People have asked God to unite them to Christ's suffering, which is a way of being in communion with Him. Good Christians deny themselves things every day. It's called self-discipline. I don't pretend to know or understand some of the extreme cases of suffering. I know that one of the most revered saints inside or outside Catholicism, St. Francis, not only had the wounds, but also manifestations of the nails. St. Paul writes of the thorn in his side, that he asked God to take away. The response was "My grace is sufficient for you." The paradox is that when we're weakest, we're strong, and when we're strong is our weakest time.Every miracle I read from Christ brought healing and relief to suffering. Stigmata, from what I understand, is ridiculously painful. To think that God would put something like that upon one of His children as a "sign" or "miracle" is absolutely ridiculous.
Who are you,
and by what authority, do you judge what's proper and what's not?
The souls in heaven hear our prayers and present them to God.
Well, the Churches I'm familiar with don't really have classrooms, unless there's a school attached, so that would be strike one.Except that I was taken to classes
weekly for many years.
All those years and never given
a bible or encouraged to read one
NO Bible reading by any of us in
the classes all of those years.
Cmon!
Not even a Bible in the church
classrooms..
It's common knowledge Jesse,
that the RCC did not encourage
Bible study, Here's an article
from a RCC Site:
Why Don't Catholics Read the Bible
[FONT=Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif]Its true that many Evangelicals know their Bible upside down and backwards, and compared to them Catholics sometimes seem ignorant of the Bible. But thats only an appearance.[/font]
[FONT=Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif]The truth is simply that Catholics and Evangelicals use the Bible in different ways and therefore have different kinds of Bible knowledge. Evangelicals use the Bible as a source book for doctrine and right moral teaching, and thats good. 2 Timothy 3.16 says the Scriptures are useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness. Evangelicals also use the Bible for personal devotions and inspiration. This too is Biblical. Psalm 119.27 says, Let me understand the teaching of your precepts; then will I meditate on your wonders.[/font]
[FONT=Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif]Ordinary Catholics might not be so adept at quoting chapter and verse, but they do know and use Scripture regularly. Its just that they use it in a different way. For a Catholic, Scripture is not so much a book to be studied as a book to worship with. (Ps. 119.7) For Catholics the Bible is almost always used in the context of worship. Did you know that a survey was done to check the amount of Scripture used in the Catholic Mass? The Catholic service was almost 30% Scripture. When the same writer checked his local Bible-based Evangelical church he was surprised to find the total amount of Scripture read took just 3% of the service.[/font]
And that was my experience.
No Bible study
Oh, the movie. Nuff said. Not that it's a bad movie, but it's hard to fit all the facts in a movie.The video that More Coffee posted back a few pages.
Well, it is the sole property of the Church Christ instituted, because His Church is One.
Why would the HOly Spirit reflect back to God when the Holy Spirit IS God?
Even God speaks in a still, small voice. He doesn't jump up and down and say Here I am!.
Those who don't give Mary her due don't get the privilege. Same with the Eucharist.
If it's human, yes. But if it's divine flesh, no. You eat beef, that's not cannibalism, but it's flesh...
No, they don't. They have traditions and Scripture. We have Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture. We have traditions, as well, but our traditions don't explain Scripture like our Traditions do.
Being human and alive is painful, too. Ridiculously painful. People have asked God to unite them to Christ's suffering, which is a way of being in communion with Him.
Good Christians deny themselves things every day. It's called self-discipline. I don't pretend to know or understand some of the extreme cases of suffering. I know that one of the most revered saints inside or outside Catholicism, St. Francis, not only had the wounds, but also manifestations of the nails. St. Paul writes of the thorn in his side, that he asked God to take away. The response was "My grace is sufficient for you." The paradox is that when we're weakest, we're strong, and when we're strong is our weakest time.
Why do the faithful deny ... literal Mark 16.16-20 ... signs, wonders, and miracles, accompany those who believe (faith) ...
Christ is fully divine. We're eating divine flesh and drinking divine blood. You're committing judgement. It's that simple.Oh please stop. Cannibalism is defined as eating human flesh. Eating animal flesh makes me a carnivore, not a cannibal. Christ is fully human. If you're eating human flesh and drinking human blood, your committing cannibalism. It's that simple.
Pretty simple, really. God ordained the Apostles, and they, and those they ordained, bestowed with the Holy Spirit, gave us Sacred Tradition. In OT times, the Prophets spoke for God. After God was cruicified and rose, in the NT Times, they gave us the interpretations of the Scripture written about Christ.Oh please tell me how you figure you have "Tradition" while they only had "tradition"? They are the ones who were intrusted with the Oracles of God, who's ancestors talked with and saw Him. You have to be kidding yourself if you were to think for a single moment that your traditions ought to carry more weight.
So you judge. Only God knows how close to Christ they are. You most certainly don't.This would be impossible. People have died more painful deaths than Christ had in regards to straight physical torture. What cause Christ the most pain and suffering was carrying the worlds sins on his shoulders, and being separated from the Father. That is a mental anguish that no one can ever understand. These individuals aren't being united to Christ in His suffering, because they can't even come close to it. It's simply not possible.
No, it was real.Paul's thorn was symbolic, not literal. Manifestations of nails and the marks from the crucifixion are nothing more than demonic. Like seriously, what person would want to see someone else suffer and go "GLORY TO GOD!" It's like if Peter had gone "Silver and gold have I not, but that which I have give I unto you, in the name of Jesus Christ - BLEED!"
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