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Some say Lilith is Jewish (Hebrews) Folklore.....For my part ....Isaiah said He was the mouth of God....and so God would know the difference between folklore and what really happened. Isaiah taught the truth not folklore because God spoke by Isaiah. However, today, men are still free to chose what is true or not as they please.
I searched 12 different translations. I found "lilith" in the Darby translation, in Isaiah 34:14. In the ASV, the phrase "night-monster" is used. BBV - "night-spirit". CEV: "creatures of the night". ESV: "night bird". GW: "Screech owls". KJV: "screech owl".
So...your whole argument about "lilith" is utter and complete bupkus
If women scare you because of feminism, I think it's you that has the problem, not feminism.
Dan - if Litith was what you claim she was - she would be mentioned in passing some chapters pass Genesis. She would have at LEAST been mentioned in passing in Genesis. I mean at the VERY least. I have big issues with that. You can believe what you wish I guess.
Also the rule over part in Genesis? That was part of the curse. It wasn't meant as a present to males - or some order. It says that your desire will be for the male/husband, and he will rule over you. It's like anything else you covet and desire the wrong way according to God - it will rule over you. Doesn't mean your suppose to see it as a good thing. That justification is a human thing.
People allow all kinds of things to rule over them. Men talk about how LUST rules over them for example. Heck, even POWER! In our culture? Drugs, booze, etc - no gender deal there either. Ruling over any human in that sense - is never a good thing. Respect and love is always spoke about, but people overlook the boundaries the bible speaks about too. That also is a human thing to me. No gender deal there either. Our human side ignores it to our advantage, but on our faith side? Not so much.
Dan - if Litith was what you claim she was - she would be mentioned in passing some chapters pass Genesis. She would have at LEAST been mentioned in passing in Genesis. I mean at the VERY least. I have big issues with that. You can believe what you wish I guess.
Also the rule over part in Genesis? That was part of the curse. It wasn't meant as a present to males - or some order. It says that your desire will be for the male/husband, and he will rule over you. It's like anything else you covet and desire the wrong way according to God - it will rule over you. Doesn't mean your suppose to see it as a good thing. That justification is a human thing.
People allow all kinds of things to rule over them. Men talk about how LUST rules over them for example. Heck, even POWER! In our culture? Drugs, booze, etc - no gender deal there either. Ruling over any human in that sense - is never a good thing. Respect and love is always spoke about, but people overlook the boundaries the bible speaks about too. That also is a human thing to me. No gender deal there either. Our human side ignores it to our advantage, but on our faith side? Not so much.
Well, this silly little woman took time to actually RESEARCH your claim...ITS BUPKUS. Deal with it.
Red Pony...I do not know what material you researched and how concerning Lilith. Have you tried the Midrash? How about looking up Genesis..For example Genesis 1:27 It states quite clearly God created the man and the woman in His Image. God created them both at this time...The Creation of Eve comes later in Genesis. Eve was created from the Rib of Adam in Genesis chapter 2 v21-22.
Just because a person or even many persons say something is bupkus does not make it so.
dan
Let's see...14 different translations of the Bible, 3 commentaries, Strongs, and an Evangelical Dictionary. NOT a single source said anything close to what you are claiming. The Midrash is not Torah.
Again, your theology leaves a lot to be desired.
That unconditional love thing works both ways. Some years ago my husband got very sick. He had to stop working...not that I cared, my love for him and his "worth" to me was not tied to his paycheck. He sank into depression, started drinking and abusing the prescribed opiates he had. He turned into a violent, abusive ( physically, verbally, mistreating my pets) man. I dealt with it, tried to get him to get help through suicide attempts, destruction of property, etc. I finally had to do the tough love and had him arrested. Yet...although I had biblical grounds to divorce him (he also had a couple affairs and a porn addiction), I (the feminist) chose to stay with him, pray for him and keep loving him even when my entire body was screaming to leave him. Instead I chose to honor my vows. The Lord answered my prayers and 5 weeks after his release from jail, I had the blessing and honor of baptizing him in front of our entire church community.
So...now...you tell me where this feminist violated any of God's laws.
Dan, Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 are two versions of the same creation story. I told you what my research showed on Isaiah 34:14. Now, if you insist on holding a belief that is demonstrably unbiblical and false, go for it. However, I would hope you would be wise enough to research what I wrote and check and see if your belief is erroneous. If you'd like, I could give you the email addresses of some of my professors from Liberty University or some pastors I know to double check.
So you're saying that Satan is capable of replicating that happiness? That Satan can replicate the holy spirit, and then form himself into the silhouette of Jesus without me noticing? That I repented my sins to Satan? And have been repenting my sins to Satan this entire time?
That Satan sent angels to me after prayer?
That, my entire views of scripture have been put upon me by Satan?
I am willing to listen to you. I always DID listen to you. But, I just find it extremely hard to believe.
Also, a majority of the people in this thread HAVE been trying to help and support me. Always notice, the only people that have been not and the people who have been against me following God's path were somehow feminists...
I HAVE listened to everyone in this thread, even if I acted in anger against some of them. And I am actively putting several of the suggestions into motion.
...my inner knowing.
dan
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