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How do I "make" myself believe?
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<blockquote data-quote="hedrick" data-source="post: 70151104" data-attributes="member: 239032"><p>Wait a sec, guys. I never said we weren’t expected to do anything. Jesus demanded obedience, after all. But the posting I was responding to talked specifically about religious experience, i.e. experiencing God.</p><p></p><p>Jesus himself did that, and probably Paul (though it depends a bit upon interpreting some of his statements). But neither taught that religious experience was a requirement for being Christian. Obedience, love, even prayer. But not what people normally mean by religious experience, and what I believe the posting (<a href="http://www.christianforums.com/threads/how-do-i-make-myself-believe.7908702/page-4#post-70150002" target="_blank">http://www.christianforums.com/threads/how-do-i-make-myself-believe.7908702/page-4#post-70150002</a>) was referring to.</p><p></p><p>Furthermore, that posting would lead readers into assessing the adequacy of their own religious experience in order to get assurance of salvation. But nothing we do can make us worthy of salvation, so any honest self-assessment will lead to despair. This is precisely the problem Luther had before his conversion. Confidence in salvation has to come from appreciating what Christ did, not any assessment of ourselves. We should advise people who aren’t sure to look at Christ, not themselves.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hedrick, post: 70151104, member: 239032"] Wait a sec, guys. I never said we weren’t expected to do anything. Jesus demanded obedience, after all. But the posting I was responding to talked specifically about religious experience, i.e. experiencing God. Jesus himself did that, and probably Paul (though it depends a bit upon interpreting some of his statements). But neither taught that religious experience was a requirement for being Christian. Obedience, love, even prayer. But not what people normally mean by religious experience, and what I believe the posting ([URL]http://www.christianforums.com/threads/how-do-i-make-myself-believe.7908702/page-4#post-70150002[/URL]) was referring to. Furthermore, that posting would lead readers into assessing the adequacy of their own religious experience in order to get assurance of salvation. But nothing we do can make us worthy of salvation, so any honest self-assessment will lead to despair. This is precisely the problem Luther had before his conversion. Confidence in salvation has to come from appreciating what Christ did, not any assessment of ourselves. We should advise people who aren’t sure to look at Christ, not themselves. [/QUOTE]
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