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The Coast Guard is obligated to save all they can. God is not under that same obligation.
What's the answer from your worldview? Is God's morality internal or external?
You want me to answer your question from your world view and not from what I believe the Scriptures say.
God's morality is a part of His natural being (internally) that can be seen in His thoughts externally (that are written within His Word) and His actions externally (that can be seen in the real world and by His Word). God's morality for man is even imbedded within the creation, as well. This is why we can make parables and stuff in regards to God's morality or goodness.
Yes, God is obligated to save all men that He can because God is good and loving. For God is not willing that any should persih, but that all should come to repentance.
Yes, God is obligated to save all men that He can because God is good and loving. For God is not willing that any should persih, but that all should come to repentance.
He obviously didn't feel himself obligated to save the Egyptians. Even before Moses' first encounter with Pharoah, it is said that God had hardened his heart.
And there was that whole drowning them part which He could have avoided, at the very least.He obviously didn't feel himself obligated to save the Egyptians. Even before Moses' first encounter with Pharoah, it is said that God had hardened his heart.
Furthermore, Exodus 9 contains these words addressed to Pharaoh:
Exodus 9:16 And in very deed for this cause have I raised thee up, for to shew in thee my power; and that my name may be declared throughout all the earth.
But not exclusively. See Romans 9 as well.The pharoah hardened his own heart first.
See Exodus 7:22, Exodus 8:15, Exodus 8:19, Exodus 8:32.
The pharoah hardened his own heart first.
See Exodus 7:22, Exodus 8:15, Exodus 8:19, Exodus 8:32.
As for saving the Egyptians: It is free will that determines whether somebody follows God or not. They obviously did not want to follow the true Lord but they wanted their false gods and their sin instead.
But not exclusively. See Romans 9 as well.
Try Exodus 4.21.
And the Lord said unto Moses, When thou goest to return into Egypt, see that thou do all those wonders before Pharaoh, which I have put in thine hand: but I will harden his heart, that he shall not let the people go.
The story of Exodus is told from the perspective that the Pharoah ultimately hardened his own heart.
"Wherefore then do ye harden your hearts, as the Egyptians and Pharaoh hardened their hearts? when he had wrought wonderfully among them, did they not let the people go, and they departed?" (1 Samuel 6:6).
I don't recall making a point about election.When you read Romans 9:17-18: Well, you have to realize it is making a parallel. For there is a parallel being made of how God is Sovereign and just in setting up the Promised Line of the Messiah (i.e. by having mercy on whom He wills) versus raising up Pharaoh into power to show God's power. How was God's power shown in the life of the Pharoah? Well, God allowed Pharoah to be raised up so that God's power was shown in the life of God's miracles being displayed such as the Ten plagues and the parting of the Red Sea. This is why Pharoah was raised up. It was so that God's power (or miracles) could be displayed (and proclaimed to all the Earth). Just as God had chosen the line of the Messiah so as to display His power (and proclaim such a thing to all the Earth). So this was not some kind of point to prove individual election but to prove the Election of the Promised Line of the Messiah (Who is Jesus Christ). For Jesus is the greatest miracle (of the best form of Election) that there is.
Anyways, when you read on down to verse 24 (Romans 9:24), the point is clear what Paul is really talking about.
It says as plainly as could be wished for that God had determined Pharaoh's heart even before Moses had returned to Egypt. Squirm as much as you like; that is what it says.
I don't recall making a point about election.
Then how can God harden the Pharoah's heart? By allowing the Pharoah to be drawn and enticed away by his own lusts and desires fully.
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