How did these life evolved out?

[sfs]

The idea that inanimate objects have desires fits quite well in Aristotelean physics, in which things have natural places to which they strive to return. It did not prove to be a fruitful way of understanding the detailed behavior of, well, anything, and was replaced several centuries ago. Odd to see it reappear now.

 

[juvenissun]

You keep forgetting: no bad teachers, just bad students.

On one condition: The teacher must teach something (new).

 

[Herman Hedning]

On one condition: The teacher must teach something (new).

Does he have to teach something that makes sense?

 

[bhsmte]

On one condition: The teacher must teach something (new).

What he was teaching, certainly seemed new to you.

 

[juvenissun]

Does he have to teach something that makes sense?

Not really, as long as he says something new.

 

[juvenissun]

The idea that inanimate objects have desires fits quite well in Aristotelean physics, in which things have natural places to which they strive to return. It did not prove to be a fruitful way of understanding the detailed behavior of, well, anything, and was replaced several centuries ago. Odd to see it reappear now.

This is the price to pay by not accepting the idea of creation.

 

[juvenissun]

Organisms don't "steer" their evolution.

They DO.

 

[AirPo]

They DO.

This is the price to pay by not accepting the fact of evolution.

 

[juvenissun]

2 fish are swimming by the coast.
They see humans sunbath on the beach.

One says to the other "how nuts!!! don't they realise that they will die there????"

Exactly. You do can say that to all fishes.

 

[juvenissun]

This is the price to pay by not accepting the fact of evolution.

If there is a fact about it.

 

[AirPo]

If there is a fact about it.

There are lots.

 

[sfs]

This is the price to pay by not accepting the idea of creation.

Incorrect. Modern physics was invented by people who fully accepted the idea of creation. The problem with Aristotelian physics is that it isn't a good description of physical reality.

 

[dad]

Incorrect. Modern physics was invented by people who fully accepted the idea of creation. The problem with Aristotelian physics is that it isn't a good description of physical reality.

They tried to take physics too far. It doesn't go to creation.

 

[pshun2404]

How did these life evolved out?

Nothing "wants" to evolve. There is no consciousness or volition involved. It is what happens when conditions are right.

Exactly and sometimes when they are not ideal!

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

They DO.

How exactly?

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

They DO.

They don't.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Exactly. You do can say that to all fishes.

Hilarious how you say "exactly", while not even comprehending that it only goes to show how ridiculous your own argument was concerning an arbitrarily chosen type of life living under conditions that is only suitable for that type of life.

 

[Jimmy D]

Well that was embarrassing.

 

[AirPo]

They tried to take physics too far. It doesn't go to creation.

that's because so called "creation" is not part of the natural world, therefore outside the realm of science.

 

[JackRT]

that's because so called "creation" is not part of the natural world, therefore outside the realm of science.

There are some who think that the Big Bang was the creation event but that is certainly far from being a slam dunk.