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How can you look for a girlfriend without commiting lust?

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GrahamR

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I'm single but in the future i am looking to find the girl for me... but how am i going to meet a girl without lusting after her aswell? Isn't that part of meeting someone... you meet them because you find something about them attractive... so is finding someone attractive not lust?

Also if i notice myself looking at a good looking girl and lusting over her i try to stop myself immediately and tell myself that it was wrong to do that.... but how are you meant to meet a girl if you act in this way every time you look at a girl?

I guess you have just got to pray to God that you will find the right girl at the right time... but i'm wondering how you would actually be able to meet someone without lusting.

Regards and God bless.

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I think you can find someone attractive without lust...
Lust is, as I understand it, deliberately dwelling on wrong thoughts, spending time imagining sinning with the person, allowing your mind to keep thinking on those lines.
Seeing someone and finding them attractive isn't lust, and the temptation to think of them that way is simply temptation, not sin.
So yes, you can meet someone, find her attractive, get to know her, without giving in to lust. The temptation will probably come, but.. God's grace is always sufficient.
 
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This subject has already been debated half near to death on other Christian†Forums threads. If you can't find a satisfactory answer to your question on the thread below, then you sure as taxes aren't going to find one on this thread either.

Erotic Fantasies

BTW: that thread is locked: which means you can read it; but you can't add to it. It's just as well since the discussion had degenerated into a quarrel; and people were beginning to repeat themselves with the same resolves and rebuttals over and over again.

C.L.I.F.F.
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Graham,
Nice questions you always have. I think that when you behold something beautiful, its one thing to be in awe of the object, another to worship the object. Consider many cultures in the world that have a great mountain that stretches into the heavens. They have in their religion accepted it as some sort of god... Something beautiful, awe-inspiring is a stumbling block, then. I think when it comes to a woman of beauty and awe, its one thing to admire; its another to lust and objectify her by our desires/passions. When you meet that special woman, I think it will be very difficult to objectify her without in some way violating the sanctity of who she is... Because you value her so highly, you won't lust for her without violating your own conscience, as well as grieve the Spirit of God within you...

And you will face temptation when you spend time with her. But the temptations will be a means to develop and grow your love for each other that is NOT based on sexual fulfillments. The world has it backwards. They think sex is the foundation of a marriage or relationship. But sexual love is meant to be the crown of a relationship... It is meant to be a celebration of two becoming one. And its meant to be contained within covenant that is life-long and binding. Its not a toy, and its not for entertainment. And that is where our culture has been derailed.

Of course, physical beauty is not the only thing you should desire. She should be the best friend you've ever known. She should be a great accountability partner, and love the Lord more than you love Him. The beauty of her character should attract you as much as her skin and smile. :) Read Proverbs 31 about the perfect woman. This is what it says:

10 A wife of noble character who can find?
She is worth far more than rubies.

11 Her husband has full confidence in her
and lacks nothing of value.

12 She brings him good, not harm,
all the days of her life.

13 She selects wool and flax
and works with eager hands.

14 She is like the merchant ships,
bringing her food from afar.

15 She gets up while it is still dark;
she provides food for her family
and portions for her servant girls.

16 She considers a field and buys it;
out of her earnings she plants a vineyard.

17 She sets about her work vigorously;
her arms are strong for her tasks.

18 She sees that her trading is profitable,
and her lamp does not go out at night.

19 In her hand she holds the distaff
and grasps the spindle with her fingers.

20 She opens her arms to the poor
and extends her hands to the needy.

21 When it snows, she has no fear for her household;
for all of them are clothed in scarlet.

22 She makes coverings for her bed;
she is clothed in fine linen and purple.

23 Her husband is respected at the city gate,
where he takes his seat among the elders of the land.

24 She makes linen garments and sells them,
and supplies the merchants with sashes.

25 She is clothed with strength and dignity;
she can laugh at the days to come.

26 She speaks with wisdom,
and faithful instruction is on her tongue.

27 She watches over the affairs of her household
and does not eat the bread of idleness.

28 Her children arise and call her blessed;
her husband also, and he praises her:

29 "Many women do noble things,
but you surpass them all."

30 Charm is deceptive, and beauty is fleeting;
but a woman who fears the LORD is to be praised.

31 Give her the reward she has earned,
and let her works bring her praise at the city gate.

Find a woman like that, and you will be blessed.
~Sean
 
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Grahma beauty is only skin deep, you can marry the most beautiful woman in the world with the coldest and hardest heart.

What is love:

Five Types of Love

* Eros (ἔρως érōs) is passionate love, with sensual desire and longing. The Modern Greek word "erotas" means "(romantic) love". However, eros does not have to be sexual in nature. Eros can be interpreted as a love for someone whom you love more than the philia love of friendship. It can also apply to dating relationships as well as marriage. Plato refined his own definition. Although eros is initially felt for a person, with contemplation it becomes an appreciation of the beauty within that person, or even becomes appreciation of beauty itself. It should be noted Plato does not talk of physical attraction as a necessary part of love, hence the use of the word platonic to mean, "without physical attraction". Plato also said eros helps the soul recall knowledge of beauty, and contributes to an understanding of spiritual truth. Lovers and philosophers are all inspired to seek truth by eros. The most famous ancient work on the subject of eros is Plato's Symposium, which is a discussion among the students of Socrates on the nature of eros.

* Philia (φιλία philía), which means friendship in modern Greek, a dispassionate virtuous love, was a concept developed by Aristotle. It includes loyalty to friends, family, and community, and requires virtue, equality and familiarity. In ancient texts, philia denoted a general type of love, used for love between family, between friends, a desire or enjoyment of an activity, as well as between lovers. This is the only other word for "love" used in the ancient text of the New Testament besides agape, but even then it is used substantially less frequently.

* Agapē (ἀγάπη agápē) means "love" in modern day Greek, such as in the term s'agapo (Σ'αγαπώ), which means"I love you". In Ancient Greek it often refers to a general affection rather than the attraction suggested by "eros"; agape is used in ancient texts to denote feelings for a good meal, one's children, and the feelings for a spouse. It can be described as the feeling of being content or holding one in high regard. The verb appears in the New Testament describing, amongst other things, the relationship between Jesus and the beloved disciple. In biblical literature, its meaning and usage is illustrated by self-sacrificing, giving love to all--both friend and enemy. It is used in Matthew 22:39, "Love your neighbour as yourself," and in John 15:12, "This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you," and in 1 John 4:8, "God is love." However, the word "agape" is not always used in the New Testament in a positive sense. II Timothy 4:10 uses the word in a negative sense. The Apostle Paul writes,"For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved (agapo) this present world...." Thus the word "agape" is not always used of a divine love or the love of God. Christian commentators have expanded the original Greek definition to encompass a total commitment or self-sacrificial love for the thing loved. Because of its frequency of use in the New Testament, Christian writers have developed a significant amount of theology based solely on the interpretation of this word.

* Storge (στοργή storgē) means "affection" in modern Greek; it is natural affection, like that felt by parents for offspring. Rarely used in ancient works, and then almost exclusively as a descriptor of relationships within the family.

* Thelema (θέλημα thélēma) means "desire" in modern Greek; it is the desire to do something, to be occupied, to be in prominence.

Source(s):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_words...
 
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I'm single but in the future i am looking to find the girl for me... but how am i going to meet a girl without lusting after her aswell? Isn't that part of meeting someone... you meet them because you find something about them attractive... so is finding someone attractive not lust?

Also if i notice myself looking at a good looking girl and lusting over her i try to stop myself immediately and tell myself that it was wrong to do that.... but how are you meant to meet a girl if you act in this way every time you look at a girl?

I guess you have just got to pray to God that you will find the right girl at the right time... but i'm wondering how you would actually be able to meet someone without lusting.

Regards and God bless.

Graham


You shouldn't be lusting. Attraction should be without physical manifestations. Lust is in your imagination. This says you are thinking evil on a woman. You need to change your whole perspective:

The whole point of a man and woman is romance, then marriage, then children, then a happy life.

It is a journey, something to explore.

We are not under Law, but under grace. God uses love between a man and a woman to express greater things.

You don't seem to be telling the truth about your thoughts and likely are indulging in wicked things. Avoid those. Throw them out. Better to gouge out an eye then to go into Hell with two eyes -- means remove anything causing you such temptation. What is it?

Otherwise, it is natural to be physically attracted to a woman. If your intentions are true, there is nothing to be ashamed of. The world is full of much evil, however.

If, however, you can not deal with women but with lust, then better for you to strive to be celibate for awhile and stay away from that entirely.

God does set you up with one woman. If you can so believe. But, if you can not believe this, what can you believe? Do you doubt God's omnipotent power?

That is in that case a normal physical reaction. We have plenty of ugly physical reactions. Every time we eat food.

But stay away from the world.
 
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try to meet them as friends at first. After you've met them, you'll think they're pretty but dont let your thoughts get wrapped up in their bodies, focus on their minds. listen to what they have to say. evaluate how they handle situations. think about the non-physical qualties your "the one" needs to have to be by your side for life and for both of you to be happy.
its okay to think she's gorgeous though, just FYI ^_^
 
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Thanks for your replies... yea i see now that there is no need to lust to find a girl... you gotta love them for who they are and how they act in situations and deal with things... you can admire their physical beauty as long as that doesn't cause you to lust in your heart... it makes perfect sense... i've had anxiety problems in the past so i have never really dated girls at all... and i'm not about too either... i think God will find me the right girl... and when i meet her i will know that she is the one.

Man it just feels so good knowing God doesn't it?! Things just become so clear... all these earthly things just seem so irrelevant.. but you can still enjoy yourself too...

Before i used to be so bothered about what people thought about me etc... but i feel that knowing God is helping me with my anxiety aswell.... I don't live to please man.... I LIVE TO PLEASE GOD, AMEN!
 
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Thanks for your replies... yea i see now that there is no need to lust to find a girl... you gotta love them for who they are and how they act in situations and deal with things... you can admire their physical beauty as long as that doesn't cause you to lust in your heart... it makes perfect sense... i've had anxiety problems in the past so i have never really dated girls at all... and i'm not about too either... i think God will find me the right girl... and when i meet her i will know that she is the one.

Man it just feels so good knowing God doesn't it?! Things just become so clear... all these earthly things just seem so irrelevant.. but you can still enjoy yourself too...

Before i used to be so bothered about what people thought about me etc... but i feel that knowing God is helping me with my anxiety aswell.... I don't live to please man.... I LIVE TO PLEASE GOD, AMEN!


I had a similar situation as a kid... I was good looking, but not in the way typically attractive to women. I had a real sweet, angel face. I looked like I was a teenager when I was in my earlier twenties.

(Now, I look like I am in my twenties and almost forty, so, whatever.)

Also, while I had lusts here and there and a lot of very difficult struggles, ultimately, I was on a spiritual search and such things did not interest me. I didn't care about peer groups, or anything of that kind. I always just kind of floated through things.

That can be hard because to really get into groups where you might meet more friends and find women... you usually have to actually care about being a part of some group.

OTOH, for me, I just went by grace, and God gave me who He gave me, just as I believed.

If you are having self-esteem problems with women, I would suggest to start working out with weights on a regular basis. That can make you feel confident. For me, I hated being so skinny... in my late twenties, decided to work out, and completely changed my body image.

After that, people could never believe I was so skinny at all, when I would tell guys that had such problems about that.
 
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i hope you could help me...and can give me steps...

Mate, the steps to freedom from lust and immorality is done in a number of steps. There are three books that I recommend to those who struggle with emotional, sexual, menta and spiritual captivity are written by Neil Anderson: Victory Over Darkness, Bondage Breakers and Set Free.

There is no "quick fix" to bondage, but a lot of hard work, so please read these books.

Blessings.
 
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One of my fav' movies is a little flick called "Shallow Hal". Very instructive, and humbling.

And yes, you'll always have lust, but if you base your relationships on lust, then the relationships will self-destruct as the lust weakens and dies.

Find at least a better emotion to build lasting relationships on. You can do it. Find people you can trust, people who work with you, people who will better you, people who will express "agape" love for you and not just "eros" love for you. Lust will cool and die. Love that cares for the other party will not fail.
 
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I'm single but in the future i am looking to find the girl for me... but how am i going to meet a girl without lusting after her aswell? Isn't that part of meeting someone... you meet them because you find something about them attractive... so is finding someone attractive not lust?

Also if i notice myself looking at a good looking girl and lusting over her i try to stop myself immediately and tell myself that it was wrong to do that.... but how are you meant to meet a girl if you act in this way every time you look at a girl?

I guess you have just got to pray to God that you will find the right girl at the right time... but i'm wondering how you would actually be able to meet someone without lusting.


Regards and God bless.

Graham

Keep your eyes above her neck....

;)
 
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