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how can you be sure that the devil is evil and the bible is correct?

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Everybody is human. It is just some that are more human than others.

Gotcha

Thanks for playing.

Thank you for agreeing with my point: That Christians are very much for saving babies in the womb, but once born many Christians don't object to the fact that they die through lack of proper health care.

I don't understand it either.
 
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What are you babbling about?

I don't believe I've ever given my opinion on abortion on this forum, so how would possibly know it?
 
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Just because he isn't as passionate about it as you would like doesn't mean he agrees with it! I think what you did was unfair. If I were you I would offer an apology.

Ken
 
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No. You claim to know my position on abortion, and have "pegged" me on it, when I've never discussed it.

That means either:

A. You can read my mind.

B. You are lying.

Which is it?
If you will notice in post #70 he apologized for falsely accusinng you.

Ken
 
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I didn't say that, I said in order to confirm the truth of a book, you need an outside source; something other than that book. Do you agree?

Ken

Absolutely not.

When I published a book, I don't need the confirmation from any other books.
If a book said something I agreed with, then I list it as a reference.
If a book do not agree with me, then I criticize it in my book.
 
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Are you seriously trying to justify the atrocities of Moses? Didn't one of his own commandments say "Thou shalt not kill"???

Ken

Of course whatever Moses did is justified, include the order of killing.
If you don't agree, we can talk about it. Which one do you think that Moses did wrong?

If you read chapter 3 of a book says: gravity works. But chapter 5 says: gravity does not work. What would you do? Thrown the book out, or read the chapters in detail to find out what's going on?
 
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Good, as long as you are willing to argue, there is a hope for you to understand.

If God does not allow Moses to kill, then Israelites will all be killed. It is not a situation to kill for fun. It is a life and death struggle. It is a WAR. Yes, in this war, women, children, even cows and cats, are all involved. It is much more than just winning a battle.

If you like to know more: This kind of war continued for almost a whole Century. Do you know what? Ultimately, Israelites failed. They did not kill enough as God orders them to do. Three hundreds years later. The kingdom of Israel was destroyed because of this fatal mistake made by their ancestors.
 
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Absolutely not.

When I published a book, I don't need the confirmation from any other books.
I said AN OUTSIDE SOURCE!!! I did not say it had to come from a book.

If a book said something I agreed with, then I list it as a reference.
If a book do not agree with me, then I criticize it in my book.
What are you talking about??? I am not talking about weather or not you agree with something, I'm talking about how you atain the truth! Just because you agree with it and put it in your book doesn't make it the truth!
Again; in order to confirm something as true, you need to reference an outside source. Do you agree with this? If not please provide an example.

K
 
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Of course whatever Moses did is justified, include the order of killing.
If you don't agree, we can talk about it. Which one do you think that Moses did wrong?
Numbers 31:17-18. After the war was over Moses instructed his warriers to kill all the captured men and children; and kill all the women who are not virgins. The women who are virgins you can keep them alive for yourselves. Here Moses claims God wants them to commit genoside and rape against the Midinites. Do you have a problem with this?

Ken
 
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Do you understand why would God allow that to take place?
Please say you don't.
I know this question was asked for someone else but I would like to give my opinion; even though I doubt you would agree.

I believe men of war will worship a God of war; and men of peace will worship a God of peace. I believe Moses, Saul, and Joshua worshipped a God of war and they behaved accordingly. I believe Christians of today worship Jesus who is a God of peace.
The problem comes when today's Christians who worship the God of peace feel a need to justify the actions of those men who worshipped the God of war, and they find themselves justifying behavior that they know they would never tolorate from anyone else thus it makes them look hyprocryptical.

Ken
 
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No I don't.

What if everyone is wrong but I am right? This situation happened numerous times everywhere all the time.

Particularly in the case of the Bible, there is NO outside source to confirm the truth in the Bible. Nothing.

For example, the Pop said a non-Christian still could be saved. I do not agree. This major outside source does not apply to me.
 
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Don't doubt God's ability to keep his word from being tampered with, the truth will be revealed.

(2 Thessalonians 2:7-12) 7 True, the mystery of this lawlessness is already at work; but only till he who is right now acting as a restraint gets to be out of the way. 8 Then, indeed, the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will do away with by the spirit of his mouth and bring to nothing by the manifestation of his presence. 9 But the lawless one’s presence is according to the operation of Satan with every powerful work and lying signs and portents 10 and with every unrighteous deception for those who are perishing, as a retribution because they did not accept the love of the truth that they might be saved. 11 So that is why God lets an operation of error go to them, that they may get to believing the lie, 12 in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness.
 
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