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How can there be free will in heaven?

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He was referring to humans

I beg to differ. He referred directly to "fleshly animal instinct". He did not refer to fleshly human desires. Even the Bible never refers to "fleshly animal instinct". The Bible make a clear distinction between animals and people.
 
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God's, of course, and God does not have "fleshly animal instincts" does He?
No because we are the privileged animal, not Him. But we also are made in his image which is not flesh. Dual nature, same as Jesus was.
 
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Who's image are humans made in? It doesn't mean flesh.

the Gospel of John says that the Word was made flesh.
Jesus was resurrected in flesh as well.
Flesh by itself is not evil, God originally made it good, and will once again, restore it to being good.
there is an element of "carnality" that will be with us forever.
 
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Peter is a man, God gave him a vision, and an instruction, Peter only determined his interpretation of it after the vision ended, but this was not an interpretation given by angel or by God's own words.

Not according to Peter.

2 Peter 1:
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
 
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"Unclean" in Levitical law is not about health.

IT is according to scripture when it comes to Lev 11.

2 “Speak to the sons of Israel, saying, ‘These are the creatures which you may eat from all the animals that are on the earth.

2 “Speak to the children of Israel, saying, ‘These are the animals which you may eat among all the animals that are on the earth: 3 Among the animals, whatever divides the hoof, having cloven hooves and chewing the cud—that you may eat. 4 Nevertheless these you shall not eat

29 These also shall be unclean unto you among the creeping things that creep upon the earth; the weasel, and the mouse, and the tortoise after his kind,

30 And the ferret, and the chameleon, and the lizard, and the snail, and the mole.
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39 ‘And if any animal which you may eat dies, he who touches its carcass shall be unclean until evening.

39 ‘Also if one of the animals dies which you have for food, the one who touches its carcass becomes unclean until evening

46 ‘This is the law of the animals and the birds and every living creature that moves in the waters, and of every creature that creeps on the earth, 47 to distinguish between the unclean and the clean, and between the animal that may be eaten and the animal that may not be eaten.’ ”

46 This is the law regarding the animal and the bird, and every living thing that moves in the waters and everything that swarms on the earth, 47 to make a distinction between the unclean and the clean, and between the edible creature and the creature which is not to be eaten.

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In Lev 11 even a clean animal is "not to be eaten" if it dies of itself and you simply come upon the carcass
 
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Adam & Eve we’re not created perfect. If they were they wouldn’t have sinned in the first place. Christ is the only perfect man that has ever lived because He endured and triumphed over temptation. When we are perfected as Christ was perfect then we will overcome sin and temptation as He did. Christ was not handicapped by His free will and neither will we be.
 
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Yeah what did you expect? Did you expect them to sin before they were created? Of course they were created sinless, everyone is.
 
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Scripture does "say" they were created perfect.

“but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat from it you will surely die.””
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭2:17‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

“So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown a perishable body, it is raised an imperishable body; it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭15:42-44‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

Neither of these mention anything about Adam & Eve being created perfect. Not in the sense that they couldn’t sin. They were created having never sinned before because it’s pretty impossible to sin before your created.
 
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There can be free-will in Heaven if our desire is God rather than ourselves.

Christ certainly has no problem refraining from sin despite His free will.
 
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I would say that there are probably over a hundred more examples of free will in the scriptures than the Trinity, and yet some people just refuse to see them.
 
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Amen what is love without free will. What value can love without free will possess? If someone did choose to love you of their own free will what value does that love really have if they had no other choice?
 
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