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Hey Handmaiden. Papal Infallibility is an obvious one, and I can see the filioque as a sticking point, but I'm curious why the Immaculate Conception would need to be dropped in your opinion. Yes it's entirely born of Western theology, but does anyone really expect Rome to adopt Eastern theology, ever?
Sounds like a good plan
Only if the Pope will accompany me and partake of the communionSo does this mean we can expect you at Divine Liturgy next week LLOJ?
Hey Handmaiden. Papal Infallibility is an obvious one, and I can see the filioque as a sticking point, but I'm curious why the Immaculate Conception would need to be dropped in your opinion. Yes it's entirely born of Western theology, but does anyone really expect Rome to adopt Eastern theology, ever?
The dogma of the Immaculate Conception didn't exist prior to 1854, so in the grand scheme of things it's not that old. How the Bishops would decide it, I'm not sure. Perhaps it could fall under economia, but that would be for them to decide. The reason I included it in the list is because it's one of the larger dogmas that has developed since the schism.
I see. Basically because it's a rather large declaration made late in the game. It makes sense but I'm not sure they would ever do that because it would necessitate redefining Original Sin altogether and thats a massive and unlikely change.
Bluntly...Considering the amount of thread on denominations and Catholacism, what can be done within Christianity to reconcile the main 3 sects of Christianity, primarily Orthodox, RC and Protestant.
Throw out a few ideas. Thanks
I recommend the Papal office of the Pope being downgraded to just being a Bishop of equal in Rome.
I concur.So essentially it would be one huge crazy awful mess and the only solution I see is that every individual should just convert to Orthodoxy. I think that would be best.
Hey man, they got rid of Limbo not too long ago...I see. Basically because it's a rather large declaration made late in the game. It makes sense but I'm not sure they would ever do that because it would necessitate redefining Original Sin altogether and thats a massive and unlikely change.
Well as I understand, and my understanding is poor, immaculate conception was an attempt by the west to understand and explain how Mary was not guilty of sin but still fell under the stain of Original Sin. Essentially my understanding of it is that it was formed so that our western minds could reconcile these seemingly contradictory necessities. I hear the Saint John Maximovich (I believe it is this one The Orthodox Veneration of Mary the Birthgiver of God) is quite good in regards to explaining much of this.
I hear the Saint John Maximovich (I believe it is this one The Orthodox Veneration of Mary the Birthgiver of God)is quite good in regards to explaining much of this.
St. John Maximovitch said:When those who censured the immaculate life of the Most Holy Virgin had been rebuked, as well as those who denied Her Evervirginity, those who denied Her dignity as the Mother of God, and those who disdained Her icons-then, when the glory of the Mother of God had illuminated the whole universe, there appeared a teaching which seemingly exalted highly the Virgin Mary, but in reality denied all Her virtues.
This teaching is called that of the Immaculate Conception of the Virgin Mary, and it was accepted by the followers of the Papal throne of Rome.
Hey man, they got rid of Limbo not too long ago...
Only if the Pope will accompany me and partake of the communion
Ooh! Pick me! I know, I know!
The RCC and the Protestants can reconcile when they begin believing the same things.
Not in JamaicaBluntly...
Hey man, they got rid of Limbo not too long ago...
Dropping Infallibility would also help bring the Old Catholics back to the Roman ChurchYeah but limbo was never actually dogma as far as I know. Dropping pious beliefs is one thing. Dogma is quite another. Then again, if they drop the Infallibility nonsense, I guess the gate is wide open for many needed changes.
Yes, he does explain it well. Here's what St. John Maximovitch has to say about it:
And the whole document: http://www.ortodoks.dk/On_Orthodox_Veneration_of_the_Mary.htm#Anchor-Zea-51977
Considering the amount of thread on denominations and Catholacism, what can be done within Christianity to reconcile the main 3 sects of Christianity, primarily Orthodox, RC and Protestant.
Throw out a few ideas. Thanks
I recommend the Papal office of the Pope being downgraded to just being a Bishop of equal in Rome.
the Filioque has been used in the West since atleast AD 300Hey Handmaiden. Papal Infallibility is an obvious one, and I can see the filioque as a sticking point, but I'm curious why the Immaculate Conception would need to be dropped in your opinion. Yes it's entirely born of Western theology, but does anyone really expect Rome to adopt Eastern theology, ever?
the Filioque has been used in the West since atleast AD 300
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