How can I know if this is truly from God?

[Ryukil]

"If you continue to follow me and do not stray from the path of righteousness, I will one day give her to you. But be aware that there will be many before you."

I heard this in my head one day when I was praying to God about a situation with a girl I have deep feelings for named Janelle. I am not sure whether it was really from God or it was just my own thoughts. How can I know?

This dream may seem unrelated to God, but this occured shortly after I asked Him for some confirmation of what was said to me. I was in a very large house, perhaps a mansion, and walking around looking for Janelle. I came to a window, and directly outside of it was a swing set. Janelle's friends Stephanie, Emily, and Kristen were on them, but she was not (The three friends and I had been fighting over some issues concerning Janelle for quite a while, and that is only just settling down now, weeks later). Finally, I heard Janelle talking with a little girl (about two days ago, weeks after the dream, I met a little girl at the church who reminded me of her for the first time named Shinade) about me and another boy named Josh. Janelle said she liked both me and Josh. The little girl said,"So why don't you just kiss both of them?" Janelle replied,"I just can't." They were both on a little balcony overlooking a staircase, and while they were talking I had begun to make my way up the stairs. Janelle saw me and blushed. I just turned around and started to walk down the stairs like nothing had happened. She looked at me and said,"Peter, we need to talk." I walked up the stairs and began talking with her a bit, though I don't remember what was said. Josh came up from behind us and made a joke about something, not knowing what Janelle and I were talking about. I stuck out my hand so he could shake it, and I said,"Josh. We need to talk. I don't want this to come between us."
That was the end of the dream. A few days after that I found out that Janelle liked Josh. I had guessed at it already, but it was finally confirmed by my friend. A few days ago the youth group went camping (that's when I met Shinade) and I spoke with Janelle a bit. The whole time she was resting her head on Dan, a sixteen year old from another church. She was all over him...So that's two guys, which doesn't really come to many...
If anyone could interpret this dream for me, I would be grateful.

 

[stafy]

Dear Ryukil, there is no way for anyone to know for sure whether or not this is of the lord.

but here is the warning, the greatness voice you will hear is from the idols in your own heart and if I may be allowed to suggest. I think this is an idol in your heart speaking, as you have made it clear you have deep feelings for this girl.
If this is of the lord he will first remove the feelings from your life, as these will only fuel a relationship based on lust not Godly love. And God want us to love from a pure motive of Godliness, not worldly lust.

I would humbly suggest that this came from your own desires, which is a perfectly natural response so be encourage your just normal.
If you wish to get spiritual you can pray and ask the lord to;
1, REVEAL TO ME WHAT IS IN MY HEART THAT SEPERATES ME FROM YOU. IE ( THE IDOLS OF MY HEART).
2, SHOW ME HOW TO HEAL MY HEART.

 

[Ryukil]

Thank you. Anyone want to comment on the dream?

 

[heron]

there is no way for anyone to know for sure whether or not this is of the lord.

I agree. Passions can be very strong, especially when it involves waiting for someone else to agree with you on something! It's very frustrating to be out of control, having a seemingly pure and good motive that can warp into an obsessed and destructive one, simply based on how the other person responds.

I think that what you heard is more important than the dream. If it was in fact God that you heard from, the message involves letting go for a while. I know that's the last thing on your mind, but if several others are in between, it looks like you have a long wait!

Whether there will be many in between or not, there's still one in Josh. Make sure you don't allow your thoughts to wallow so long that you're not able to function normally. This happens to people, no matter how strong and smart they are.

I think that God was trying to protect you from sliding downhill with obsession, by giving you a bit of a time frame.

It might never happen, too -- because relationship involves the choice of two people. But for now, just give yourself time to be a complete person without her.

 

[petermelillo]

Thanks for the replies.

 

[JeyJack]

You were preying God,it's probable that God gave you an answer in your heart and with your dream..
He told you that there will be some guys before you with her but at end she will come with you.. So you had a dream about another guy named Josh and now you are realizing she likes also other guys..
Just don't worry,let her see how you are special and be patient,if God told you that that will be..

 

[petermelillo]

Thanks (this is Ryukil on another account, btw). Anyone have anything else to add?

 

[stafy]

Dear Ryukil i've chesked your background. I know you don't want to hear this but, you need proffesssional help.
You didn't like what I replied so you changed the post in order to get, simpathy replies. ie you have now changed the name of the boy she was involved with.
I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be mean, but there are serious physicological issues going on here which are more than likely spiritual also. And that tells me you have low self estem issues, not mention the serious lust issue and a few others. This may steem from the teasing you have taken, but my guess is, you where not teased by people for you wieght issue and I suspect you may not even have a wieght issue.
It's all a covering for you to live in a fantasy world that you have created in your own head. And this pionts to some where in your family, someone, who you claim is a christains but this is not the case. Either in a current generation or a past generation someone has messed with the wrong spirit. And or you have dabbled.
I'm sorry but you just don't get as far out of control as you are while being a good christian, there is something going on here that either you don't know about or your not telling.

In caption:: there is a lot more to this than what your willing to admit.

You are going to continue to suffer and cause yourself much harm because your not willing to accept you have a problem, a very serious problem. I reply this for your own benfit, and I fear that the only thing that will wake you up, is serious spiritual interssion from others in order to set you free.

But others here have said the same thing gathering, from reading your previous posts. I'm only being direct about what others have already replied.
You have a desire of seeking only the answers that you want to hear and this blinds you from the truth that would set you free so you will remain in bondage and there is nothing anyone can do for you, until you admit your problem and bring it out into the light of our lord or until Christ sets you free. Love in the lord Jesus Christ.

I can also basically prove this is not of the lord.
The bible say's : seek first my kingdom and it's rightousness and all these things will be added unto you, eating, drinking, clothes;;; nothing here about girls; ref, Mathew 6:33

 

[oneofGod]

Post by stafy.
"Dear Ryukil i've chesked your background. I know you don't want to hear this but, you need proffesssional help."

This makes me sick. Where are the moderators?

 

[Ryukil]

I did not change the post...I added to it...The only thing I had in the original post was the thing that I thought God said to me, and then I added the dream. In actuality, I didn't even see your post until after I had edited the post. You say I changed the name of the guy she liked, yet I didn't even mention a guy she liked in the original post...

 

[Ryukil]

Notice it says I edited the post at 10:13 PM, July 1st. You also posted at that time. Do you think I had the time to write up that dream in less than one minute? Who do you think you are? Who DO YOU think you are? And what "weight issue" are you even talking about? I try my best with God, and as far as I can see there is no issue blocking me from him, besides ocassional masturbation (I am a fourteen year old pubescent, so what can you expect?). You are in no position to question my faith. I suppose you think that what you said to me was of divine origin, but you are completely misled, as you made several mistakes in your post.

 

[oneofGod]

You see stafy, you have accomplished nothing but anger and seperation. This is the truth you will live with.

Ryukil, I read your post. I think your desires and issues are things that we all face everyday. Don't fret, 14 is a difficult age, was for me anyway.
Keep the faith, and don't be discouraged by what our Christian brother has posted.
Peace be with you.

 

[Ryukil]

Thank you very much. I was a bit surprised by that post.

 

[oneofGod]

Yeah, this guys been all over me, simply because I have a different point of view.
I am glad he exposed himself like that. God works in mysterious ways.
Maybe he should take some of his own advice to heart?

 

[Ryukil]

Heh, he did get me a bit discouraged for a moment...I was asking myself,"What if he's right? What if that was some kind of message from God?" It did seem random and unexpected enough to be a message from God. But how he openly accused me of being a bad Christian and living in a "fantasy world" that I've created. Anyhow, I won't hold anything against him, as I think it was just a misunderstanding...

 

[oneofGod]

Don't get me wrong, everything is a message from God. God is the creator of all things.
I would just say, I think you may be confusing natural desires, with your desire to be right with God.
Love God, and treat your neighbors well. All of them, not just the ones who agree with you.
Do this, and the rest will come to you.

 

[Ryukil]

Right. Thanks for your contributions to this thread.

 

[stafy]

Dear Ryukil, MY reply was not intended to hurt but I am right on the mark except I know there is nothing demonic going on in your life or your families life, on that point I was in era.
I will lay out your future before, and no that God judges those whom he loves and what I write, is not as much in me judging you, but God warning you in love of the danger that lies ahead for you.
I flatted with a christian man some 10-15 yrs ago, what his name is, is not important.
He went to church did all the usual stuff, read his bible prayed and we had a good friendship. He went to a different church and I will not explain how we came together other than to say it was a divine appointment.
He openly admitted that his wife whom he had left had not been sexual unfaithful, he had not prayed the issue through. This man was better than most at being able to see into the spiritual realm, You also are better than most at being able to see the into spiritual realm.
Eventually this man who was about late 30's found a christian girl, asked her out on a date, short time later he gathered some people from his church who did not know about his background and invited them to a barbecue, without my knowledge. This he then turned into a conspiracy to get the pastor to marry them, In the end before they married and just after the barbecue he gave me a written eviction notice and I went peacefully, what does this have to do with you.

This man is used as an example of what will happen to you if you continue to play with you flesh life and flog it off as christianity.
He evicted me from his house, what does that mean? It was not me he was trying to get rid off. But the man of flesh evicted the man of God, he went so far in his flesh life using the spirit and christian lingo to justify his flesh and carnal desires that in the end he evicted Jesus from his life. And this even after he was warned by his two best friends of who he claimed at the early stages of the relationship that he was accountable to them.
A fleshy drive man who had good spirit sight, but used it for gratifying his carnal flesh and in the end, fleshy man marries fleshly woman via ignorant fleshly christian , in a fleshly church through a fleshly pastor who was controlled by his wife.. flesh, flesh, flesh, flesh, flesh, flesh,
Five years later, the lord revealed to us, that he now regretted his decision and longed for the male godly friendships he left behind.
I not trying to be mean but this man shipwrecked his life he can not undo what he has done and a relationship that is created in the flesh must be maintained by the flesh, he is now stuck in a marriage he doesn't want and must now maintain the marriage by his own fleshly strength, and all this, all the while, he had two top christian friends for advise and he chose to turn away from the godly advise and pursued his own flesh life.

So I do not know what it will take for you to wake up, except what I have already replied IE others spiritually interceding for you to break the darkness of your life.
I'm not trying to attack your parents with this but in order to address your life I must address there's as they are what created you to be the sort of person spiritually that you are.
Your parents are also fleshy carnal Christians, the evidence apart from spiritual discernment is that rather than staying at the christian school and apply spiritual principles to work the problem through, they took you out and placed you in a carnal fleshy school. Most parents would love to send there children to a christian school, they just cannot afford it.
Your fourteen, your still a boy and yet at this tender age you have already upset one girl and this one is at least your second girl,
You are living your christian life via your flesh and using christian lingo to justify it. If you continue down this road you future will be just like that man I flatted with.
You can not play with your flesh life. God desires and commands that you take you flesh life to the cross and die to your flesh life.
You can go to church, go to youth camp, read your bible, do all the stuff your doing, but if, and you are not, applying first up, christian principles and then mixing it with genuine faith you will shipwreck you life.
There is a chance here, for you to become the man of god in your family and show your parents how to live the christian life.
At fourteen you should be abstinent when it comes to sexuality, this is the problem of growing up in America, you need christian ministries from the rest of the world to go to you, and teach you the true gospel message.
They have preached abstinence throughout American schools and I hope it fails, and it must as abstinence without the cross will never work. But as American teen ages like yourself fail, it will have a positive outcome as it will wake boys and girls up to the fact that there is no purity, without the pain of the cross.
You should not be dating or pursuing girls at your age, THIS IS THE FLESH LIFE.
God wants this from you, and if you are going to claim to be a christian boy then obey the lords command, and that command is walk in holiness and purity.
You are defiling these girls with your attention and the word says's if you look at a girl lustfully then you have already committed a sin in your heart. And NO boy can play with girls the way you are and not be committing this sin daily. You are defiling her and yourself by dabbling with your flesh life.
And in the end you are leaving open a huge door in your life for satin to claim grounds to your life and in the end he will seduce you into getting a girl pregnant or somethine similar, this is the wages of the sin you are openly involved with, and I am applied that so many so called christians are happy to go along with your posts.
So from your dabblings with your flesh life and the fact that you can see into the spirit, results in the dreams of your flesh life manifesting themselves, and the reason you can remember them and recongise then for what they are is a reflection of your ability to see into the spirit.
So once again I tell you plainly as I did in my opening reply this dream is from the idols in your heart which are the idol of lust, also insecurity and a few other issues such as offence at the christian school, remember that as long as you and your parents do not go back to the school and work the issue through it remains as an offence in your hearts and separates you from god and his blessing, in a measure.
There is a lot more to this than one can address on a web site, I will leave you to contemplate you future, but know this what I have written is trust worthy and true. Now it is up to you.
If you want spiritual advise then go back to my first reply.
I'm sorry if this hurts but it is better to embrace a little reality now than wake a few years down the track with your life in a mess that may be unrepairable, IE that man can not undo his marriage, his whole life's course is now set by one fleshy act. And what God had in mind for that man is now defunct.

 

[Baptised1]

stafy....wow...harsh dude..dont say stuff like that,thats wrong and dumb, dont judge others..wow...that really suprised me right there...what the crap...

 

[Baptised1]

stafy your judging so badly its not even funny...god will work it out dude .. god has a plan and...well your judging very wrongly, your not really helping support him much :/