How can I bring the presence of God into my room or other "intimate" place?

TruthSeek3r · Nov 12, 2020

aiki said:
I don't see Paul indicating a happy middle ground between the spiritual and the sensual which is to say, between the flesh and the Spirit. Paul indicates that, to the degree one insinuates the sensual or the fleshly into one's walk with God, to that same degree the less actual walking with Him there is. (Galatians 5:17; Romans 8:5-8)

I think it would help if you provide a concrete definition of "sensual" or "flesh", and how that definition applies to videos #7, #11, #15, #17, because I'm struggling to see how it applies to those videos.

chad kincham · Nov 12, 2020

com7fy8 said:
A more obvious example is how Saul was on his way to Damascus, full of hatred, when Jesus revealed Himself to Saul. He had not status, no spirituality, no methods which helped him to become with Jesus.

Except Paul was a very zealous Pharisee, who was convinced Christians were blasphemers, and thought he was doing a service for God by getting rid of them.

Jesus showed him the truth so he’d use that same zeal to work for the kingdom.

Shalom.

chad kincham · Nov 12, 2020

com7fy8 said:
Another example is how Paul had that "thorn in the flesh" > 2 Corinthians 12:7-15. He had a problem with that, but Jesus would not grant Paul some convenient experience of being delivered from that thorn. But then Paul had a little talk with Jesus and learned to submit to how God's grace would take care of him.

Paul’s thorn in the flesh is special circumstances that don’t apply to the vast majority of Christians.

Unless a believer is taken to heaven and shown things which cant be told, which man cannot utter, (as Paul was), then given a thorn in the flesh to keep them humble, (which is why it was given to him) - then they won’t be given that torn in the flesh.

And the thorn in the flesh is called a messenger from Satan, so it’s not physical sickness: sickness and disease are never called a thorn in scripture.

Plus it buffets him, said Paul. The word ‘buffet’ in the text means to punch.

However angels are called messengers in scripture, thus a messenger from Satan is a fallen angel, aka a demon, who is harassing and punching Paul, and oppressing him.

Shalom.

chad kincham · Nov 13, 2020

TruthSeek3r said:
I think it would help if you provide a concrete definition of "sensual" or "flesh", and how that definition applies to videos #7, #11, #15, #17, because I'm struggling to see how it applies to those videos.

When Paul speaks of the flesh, it’s works of the flesh, which he defines, and they are sins.

I haven’t watched the videos, but I doubt they show acts of sins of the flesh, in them.

Paul’s emphasis on that is, if you choose to walk after the flesh, instead of after the Spirit, you won’t make it into heaven.

The thing is, if you seek God just for a vision, or a feeling, you’re not going to get it.

You’re especially not going to get it without receiving Jesus, to become a child of God, John 1:12, and Romans 10:8-13 outlines how to be saved.

To that add repentance from sins to have them forgiven, as part of our conversion, Acts 3:19.

Here’s what I wrote in another post on how to be saved:

To become a child of God, you must receive Jesus, (John 1:12),by asking Him into your heart (Revelation 3:20), where He then dwells (Ephesians 3:17and Colossians 1:27), and ask Him to forgive your sins so they are forgiven (Acts 3:19 and Acts 20:21), and call upon His name to be saved Romans 10:13.

Prayer for salvation: Lord Jesus, I believe you died for my sins and rose again - please come into my heart, forgive my sins, save my soul, and make me a new creation. In your name, amen.

Then you need to study the scriptures, because Jesus said in order for you to get your prayers granted, you have to abide in Jesus, and His words must abide in you:

Joh 15:7 If you abide in me, and my words abide in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you.

And pray to the Father, in Jesus’ name, as He said to do (end prayers with “in Jesus’ name, amen”.

Also after you’re saved, you need to repent when you know you’ve sinned; and forgive those who’ve sinned against you, so your sins are forgiven.

zoidar · Nov 13, 2020

TruthSeek3r said:
I want to start this thread by sharing with you several testimonies of people who have experienced the presence of God. Some of these testimonies are quite long, so I'm giving you the videos with the timestamps included in the links so that you can watch from the exact second they start telling their experience. Please, watch at least a few videos to understand what I'm talking about:

1) From model/to New Age witchcraft/To saved by Jesus Christ
2) New Age to Christianity // My Supernatural Experience with God
3) WOW! A Jewish lawyer and a leader in her synagogue who turned to Jesus in a supernatural way!
4) (Clip) Testimony of Being Filled with the Holy Spirit by Zac Poonen
5) Christian Life Testimony•BAPTISM of HOLY SPIRIT
6) From New Age to Jesus - My Unexpected Encounter with God
7) My Testimony Finding Jesus / Demonic Encounter / Hearing God's Voice!
8) Testimony of Andres Bisonni. Daystar Television Network
9) HERE'S WHAT CAN HAPPEN WHEN AN ATHEIST GETS SURROUNDED WITH 80 PRAYING RUSSIANS!
10) MY TESTIMONY (X-New Ager converts to CHRISTIANITY after seeing Jesus Christ)
11) Steve Hill - true encounter with God
12) From Atheist To Believer In Jesus Christ: How Jesus Cured My Eating Disorder, Christian Testimony
13) My Testimony - From New Age to JESUS
14) "I was Face-Down in the Presence of Jesus Christ"- Instantly Delivered from Drug Addiction
15) Paul Washer- The Presence of God
16) From New age and ayahuasca to Jesus
17) Muslim Man's Journey To Christ
18) Testimony - How did a Jew meet Jesus in Israel by Keren (한글)
19) Muslim only by name finds Jesus. Psychedelic, spiritual realms. Jesus saved me.My personal testimony

What is the secret to be able to have such an intimate experience with God? Do we have to cross our fingers and hope for the best, or are there concrete actions that one can take to develop an intimate close relationship with God and have experiences like these in one's room or any other intimate setting (and hopefully on a frequent basis)?
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Edit: I just posted a question on Christianity StackExchange which is related to and may be a good complement to the thread. Feel free to take a look: Is there biblical support for "feeling the presence of God" as reported by multiple Christian conversion testimonies?

If you want to experience God leave the self centered idea to seek this experience for yourself. The other part is that it's about grace and mercy and nothing we can attain. Help the poor, feed the hungry, give to those in need, be honest with God and do what Jesus tells you. Give your whole heart to him, and you'll see. Do not seek ANY experience more than you seek God!

Anthony2019 · Nov 13, 2020

I remember some years back having a very mighty encounter with the Lord.

My life was at desperation point. I was lonely, I was depressed, I felt that God had totally abandoned me and that there was never any way back to Him. I had no rest day or night - for weeks on end, my mind was in continuous torment.

One evening, I went to my bedroom, closed the door and I prayed - and I prayed hard. I was literally face down on the floor pleading with God to help me. I told Him I would do anything, literally anything, to have Him back in my life. I was praying for quite some time.

Suddenly, I felt the presence of the Holy Spirit. I felt that I had literally been lifted out of a pit and that I was totally free and liberated. I felt totally surrounded by God's presence and His love. And I had a boldness and confidence that I had not had before.

DamianWarS · Nov 13, 2020

TruthSeek3r said:
I want to start this thread by sharing with you several testimonies of people who have experienced the presence of God. Some of these testimonies are quite long, so I'm giving you the videos with the timestamps included in the links so that you can watch from the exact second they start telling their experience. Please, watch at least a few videos to understand what I'm talking about:

1) From model/to New Age witchcraft/To saved by Jesus Christ
2) New Age to Christianity // My Supernatural Experience with God
3) WOW! A Jewish lawyer and a leader in her synagogue who turned to Jesus in a supernatural way!
4) (Clip) Testimony of Being Filled with the Holy Spirit by Zac Poonen
5) Christian Life Testimony•BAPTISM of HOLY SPIRIT
6) From New Age to Jesus - My Unexpected Encounter with God
7) My Testimony Finding Jesus / Demonic Encounter / Hearing God's Voice!
8) Testimony of Andres Bisonni. Daystar Television Network
9) HERE'S WHAT CAN HAPPEN WHEN AN ATHEIST GETS SURROUNDED WITH 80 PRAYING RUSSIANS!
10) MY TESTIMONY (X-New Ager converts to CHRISTIANITY after seeing Jesus Christ)
11) Steve Hill - true encounter with God
12) From Atheist To Believer In Jesus Christ: How Jesus Cured My Eating Disorder, Christian Testimony
13) My Testimony - From New Age to JESUS
14) "I was Face-Down in the Presence of Jesus Christ"- Instantly Delivered from Drug Addiction
15) Paul Washer- The Presence of God
16) From New age and ayahuasca to Jesus
17) Muslim Man's Journey To Christ
18) Testimony - How did a Jew meet Jesus in Israel by Keren (한글)
19) Muslim only by name finds Jesus. Psychedelic, spiritual realms. Jesus saved me.My personal testimony

What is the secret to be able to have such an intimate experience with God? Do we have to cross our fingers and hope for the best, or are there concrete actions that one can take to develop an intimate close relationship with God and have experiences like these in one's room or any other intimate setting (and hopefully on a frequent basis)?
_____________________________________________________

Edit: I just posted a question on Christianity StackExchange which is related to and may be a good complement to the thread. Feel free to take a look: Is there biblical support for "feeling the presence of God" as reported by multiple Christian conversion testimonies?

yes, walk in your room or other "intimate" places and God will be there too. If you seek his manifested presence then that is for God to manifest and we can not conjure it up.

zoidar · Nov 13, 2020

Anthony2019 said:
I remember some years back having a very mighty encounter with the Lord.

My life was at desperation point. I was lonely, I was depressed, I felt that God had totally abandoned me and that there was never any way back to Him. I had no rest day or night - for weeks on end, my mind was in continuous torment.

One evening, I went to my bedroom, closed the door and I prayed - and I prayed hard. I was literally face down on the floor pleading with God to help me. I told Him I would do anything, literally anything, to have Him back in my life. I was praying for quite some time.

Suddenly, I felt the presence of the Holy Spirit. I felt that I had literally been lifted out of a pit and that I was totally free and liberated. I felt totally surrounded by God's presence and His love. And I had a boldness and confidence that I had not had before.

Beautiful testimony Anthony! Thank you for sharing!

Gregory Thompson · Nov 13, 2020

TruthSeek3r said:
I want to start this thread by sharing with you several testimonies of people who have experienced the presence of God. Some of these testimonies are quite long, so I'm giving you the videos with the timestamps included in the links so that you can watch from the exact second they start telling their experience. Please, watch at least a few videos to understand what I'm talking about:

1) From model/to New Age witchcraft/To saved by Jesus Christ
2) New Age to Christianity // My Supernatural Experience with God
3) WOW! A Jewish lawyer and a leader in her synagogue who turned to Jesus in a supernatural way!
4) (Clip) Testimony of Being Filled with the Holy Spirit by Zac Poonen
5) Christian Life Testimony•BAPTISM of HOLY SPIRIT
6) From New Age to Jesus - My Unexpected Encounter with God
7) My Testimony Finding Jesus / Demonic Encounter / Hearing God's Voice!
8) Testimony of Andres Bisonni. Daystar Television Network
9) HERE'S WHAT CAN HAPPEN WHEN AN ATHEIST GETS SURROUNDED WITH 80 PRAYING RUSSIANS!
10) MY TESTIMONY (X-New Ager converts to CHRISTIANITY after seeing Jesus Christ)
11) Steve Hill - true encounter with God
12) From Atheist To Believer In Jesus Christ: How Jesus Cured My Eating Disorder, Christian Testimony
13) My Testimony - From New Age to JESUS
14) "I was Face-Down in the Presence of Jesus Christ"- Instantly Delivered from Drug Addiction
15) Paul Washer- The Presence of God
16) From New age and ayahuasca to Jesus
17) Muslim Man's Journey To Christ
18) Testimony - How did a Jew meet Jesus in Israel by Keren (한글)
19) Muslim only by name finds Jesus. Psychedelic, spiritual realms. Jesus saved me.My personal testimony

What is the secret to be able to have such an intimate experience with God? Do we have to cross our fingers and hope for the best, or are there concrete actions that one can take to develop an intimate close relationship with God and have experiences like these in one's room or any other intimate setting (and hopefully on a frequent basis)?
_____________________________________________________

Edit: I just posted a question on Christianity StackExchange which is related to and may be a good complement to the thread. Feel free to take a look: Is there biblical support for "feeling the presence of God" as reported by multiple Christian conversion testimonies?

The downside of having a "special experience" is that most Christians don't have them, and thus cannot relate to you, and quite often misunderstand it as something occult.

In terms of being aware of God's presence all the time there are two things that need to be in place.

1) Your trust/faith in God, this is the conduit God uses to connect with us from His dimension where the laws of physics are slightly different.

2) The removal of sin, through confession and/or repentance - and consistent prayer for an environment. Sin is a waste product, but its main effect for this purpose is that it obscures light, so removing it and encouraging transparency gives more angles the light can rush in from.

Since we're pretty dull sensed in the first place, the more of God's presence is concentrated, the more likely our "feelings" will take notice - which has it's own issues since the body and all thoughts and emotions coming from it are hostile to God.

tturt · Nov 13, 2020

Keep a worship song - a song that is about God - on your mind continually.

Based on- There's approximately 50 chapters about the tabernacles in the OT The tabernacle under David's administration was about worshipping God. Music was emphasized and played to Him night and day.

From I Chron 16- David
"And he appointed certain of the Levites to minister before the ark of the Lord, and to record, and to thank and praise the Lord God of Israel:" Now we are priests (Rev 1).

Give thanks unto the Lord, call upon his name...He is good his mercy endureth for ever.

Sing unto him, sing psalms unto him, talk ye of all his wondrous works.

Glory ye in his holy name: let the heart of them rejoice that seek the Lord.

Seek the Lord and his strength, seek his face

("By him therefore let us offer the sacrifice of praise to God continually, that is, the fruit of our lips giving thanks to his name." Heb)

Give unto the Lord the glory due unto his name: bring an offering, and come before him: worship the Lord in the beauty of holiness.

Maria Billingsley · Nov 13, 2020

TruthSeek3r said:
I want to start this thread by sharing with you several testimonies of people who have experienced the presence of God. Some of these testimonies are quite long, so I'm giving you the videos with the timestamps included in the links so that you can watch from the exact second they start telling their experience. Please, watch at least a few videos to understand what I'm talking about:

1) From model/to New Age witchcraft/To saved by Jesus Christ
2) New Age to Christianity // My Supernatural Experience with God
3) WOW! A Jewish lawyer and a leader in her synagogue who turned to Jesus in a supernatural way!
4) (Clip) Testimony of Being Filled with the Holy Spirit by Zac Poonen
5) Christian Life Testimony•BAPTISM of HOLY SPIRIT
6) From New Age to Jesus - My Unexpected Encounter with God
7) My Testimony Finding Jesus / Demonic Encounter / Hearing God's Voice!
8) Testimony of Andres Bisonni. Daystar Television Network
9) HERE'S WHAT CAN HAPPEN WHEN AN ATHEIST GETS SURROUNDED WITH 80 PRAYING RUSSIANS!
10) MY TESTIMONY (X-New Ager converts to CHRISTIANITY after seeing Jesus Christ)
11) Steve Hill - true encounter with God
12) From Atheist To Believer In Jesus Christ: How Jesus Cured My Eating Disorder, Christian Testimony
13) My Testimony - From New Age to JESUS
14) "I was Face-Down in the Presence of Jesus Christ"- Instantly Delivered from Drug Addiction
15) Paul Washer- The Presence of God
16) From New age and ayahuasca to Jesus
17) Muslim Man's Journey To Christ
18) Testimony - How did a Jew meet Jesus in Israel by Keren (한글)
19) Muslim only by name finds Jesus. Psychedelic, spiritual realms. Jesus saved me.My personal testimony

What is the secret to be able to have such an intimate experience with God? Do we have to cross our fingers and hope for the best, or are there concrete actions that one can take to develop an intimate close relationship with God and have experiences like these in one's room or any other intimate setting (and hopefully on a frequent basis)?
_____________________________________________________

Edit: I just posted a question on Christianity StackExchange which is related to and may be a good complement to the thread. Feel free to take a look: Is there biblical support for "feeling the presence of God" as reported by multiple Christian conversion testimonies?

If one takes biblical accounts as their guide, it is easily discerned how there were many ways God made himself present to belivers and unbelivers. Dramatic accounts such as His power over Paul, throwing him off his horse and audibly speaking to him, is one such account. In contrast Elijah , though zealous for a profound experience , God impressed upon him with a small still voice, known as our conscience.
If we seek for a sign or experience, our faith is weak. Seek more for an intimate relationship. Search out scripture on what our Lord warned us about. Be blessed.

Junia · Nov 13, 2020

com7fy8 said:
In video #1), for example, GirlWhoLuvsJesus7 talks about how she was not so spiritual when God revealed Himself in His holiness and love and forgiveness to her. My point is one can come to experience God . . . coming from not being with God, not being spiritual, not because of doing some magical check list.

A more obvious example is how Saul was on his way to Damascus, full of hatred, when Jesus revealed Himself to Saul. He had not status, no spirituality, no methods which helped him to become with Jesus.

When, then, God blesses a person with a special experience, this can be not because the person is right with God, but because the person needs this. The disciples of Jesus personally shared with Jesus, but they were not right with God; He met with them because they needed to meet and share with Him so they could get real correction!!

No, we do not cross our fingers, but take up our cross daily > Luke 9:23 >

«Si alguno quiere venir en pos de mí, niéguese a sí mismo, tome su cruz cada día, y sígame.» (en Lucas 9:23)

Then, in my opinion, it is great if God blesses us with experiences. But what we need is to constantly be submissive to God in His peace > constantly discovering how He shares with us and guides us while also correcting us.

Actively seek God's correction > Hebrews 12:4-14.

"And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to which also you were called in one body; and be thankful." (Colossians 3:15)

If you please, you are welcome to visit "obey God in His peace", on YouTube. This has to do with ongoing submission to God, and how this has us sharing with one another as His family . . . not only experiencing God, but sharing with one another. God is about family; so it possibly is not His priority to grant experiences to individuals.

Another example is how Paul had that "thorn in the flesh" > 2 Corinthians 12:7-15. He had a problem with that, but Jesus would not grant Paul some convenient experience of being delivered from that thorn. But then Paul had a little talk with Jesus and learned to submit to how God's grace would take care of him. His experience of talking with Jesus was not because he was being spiritual, but he needed Christ's confrontation with correction so he would live in God's grace all the time. And while we are submitting to God in His grace, we are continually experiencing Him . . . not only having isolated experiences.

Yes

God takes us where we are and then allows us to be transformed by His grace

Macchiato · Nov 13, 2020

TruthSeek3r said:
What does it mean to be continually experiencing Him? Like you constantly feel God's presence with you? Is that possible?

I wonder too bc i dont feel him with me.

TruthSeek3r said:
What if I've never had any experience at all?

Im marking my spot bc im just like u.

NBB said:
You need to pray a lot, if you don't know what to say, just ask for help, express your desire to get closer to him, and invoke the name of God. Seek God.

A pastor said that the secret of those ministers that seems to be very close to God and that God does things through them IS: there is no secret its just PRAYER.

But what if u pray and get nothing? I wonder what im doing wrong.

NBB said:
Have faith and ask Jesus to be filled with the Holy spirit, then you will have experiences with God "guaranteed". You need to be commited to at least pray to try stopping sinning and pray during the day because if not this is not going to last too long, and that can be discouraging.

This is informative

Franki(ncense) said:
Make sure, you don't just wait till its bed time, before you talk to God. Chat with Him, even when doing your house chores. Involve Him in your day to day plans. Even when you don't feel like talking to Him, just praise Him with scripture. Make known to Him your innermost feelings and worries. Have set times/seasons for fasting. Your fasting shouldn't be for material blessings all the time but ask to be filled with the holy spirit instead/ fast for a close and personal relationship with God/ fast so you will understand God's word/ pray that God will take out your heart of stone and give you Jesus.

This is good.

NBB · Nov 13, 2020

Macchiato said:
I wonder too bc i dont feel him with me.
But what if u pray and get nothing? I wonder what im doing wrong.

You need to seek God and get closer to him and the Holy spirit.

The other comment i agree what he said, because yes you can pray at any time, even doing other things, and you don't need elaborate sentences or words or anything, you can just ask for help God sees our hearts and our need. So pray with strenght for help or anything and insist, and you can ask that you want the Holy spirit and to know God better.

"Call to me and I will answer you and tell you great and unsearchable things you do not know."

bottoWordx · Nov 13, 2020

what do you see as godly or sinful

Redwingfan9 · Nov 13, 2020

TruthSeek3r said:
I want to start this thread by sharing with you several testimonies of people who have experienced the presence of God. Some of these testimonies are quite long, so I'm giving you the videos with the timestamps included in the links so that you can watch from the exact second they start telling their experience. Please, watch at least a few videos to understand what I'm talking about:

1) From model/to New Age witchcraft/To saved by Jesus Christ
2) New Age to Christianity // My Supernatural Experience with God
3) WOW! A Jewish lawyer and a leader in her synagogue who turned to Jesus in a supernatural way!
4) (Clip) Testimony of Being Filled with the Holy Spirit by Zac Poonen
5) Christian Life Testimony•BAPTISM of HOLY SPIRIT
6) From New Age to Jesus - My Unexpected Encounter with God
7) My Testimony Finding Jesus / Demonic Encounter / Hearing God's Voice!
8) Testimony of Andres Bisonni. Daystar Television Network
9) HERE'S WHAT CAN HAPPEN WHEN AN ATHEIST GETS SURROUNDED WITH 80 PRAYING RUSSIANS!
10) MY TESTIMONY (X-New Ager converts to CHRISTIANITY after seeing Jesus Christ)
11) Steve Hill - true encounter with God
12) From Atheist To Believer In Jesus Christ: How Jesus Cured My Eating Disorder, Christian Testimony
13) My Testimony - From New Age to JESUS
14) "I was Face-Down in the Presence of Jesus Christ"- Instantly Delivered from Drug Addiction
15) Paul Washer- The Presence of God
16) From New age and ayahuasca to Jesus
17) Muslim Man's Journey To Christ
18) Testimony - How did a Jew meet Jesus in Israel by Keren (한글)
19) Muslim only by name finds Jesus. Psychedelic, spiritual realms. Jesus saved me.My personal testimony

What is the secret to be able to have such an intimate experience with God? Do we have to cross our fingers and hope for the best, or are there concrete actions that one can take to develop an intimate close relationship with God and have experiences like these in one's room or any other intimate setting (and hopefully on a frequent basis)?
_____________________________________________________

Edit: I just posted a question on Christianity StackExchange which is related to and may be a good complement to the thread. Feel free to take a look: Is there biblical support for "feeling the presence of God" as reported by multiple Christian conversion testimonies?

Seeking out emotional experiences is a waste of time. If you want to be in the presence of God, read your Bible daily and go to church on Sunday. Trying to manufacture God's presence, as though something we do can control God, is a fools errand. If you want God to speak to you, open your Bible. Every word is his.

TruthSeek3r · Nov 13, 2020

Redwingfan9 said:
Seeking out emotional experiences is a waste of time. If you want to be in the presence of God, read your Bible daily and go to church on Sunday. Trying to manufacture God's presence, as though something we do can control God, is a fools errand. If you want God to speak to you, open your Bible. Every word is his.

Then how do you explain the testimonies in the OP?

NBB · Nov 13, 2020

Redwingfan9 said:
Seeking out emotional experiences is a waste of time. If you want to be in the presence of God, read your Bible daily and go to church on Sunday. Trying to manufacture God's presence, as though something we do can control God, is a fools errand. If you want God to speak to you, open your Bible. Every word is his.

Pfft. Sure feeling Gods love and presence and glory can be felt a lot, no one can manufacture those things though, is God doing something to you and even if emotions get involved, they are not things of 'your emotions' they are real stuff that God does. They can be life changing, faith increasing things indeed, would a father not do things to their childs?? God does things to us.

Redwingfan9 · Nov 13, 2020

TruthSeek3r said:
Then how do you explain the testimonies in the OP?

Staged, fake and irrelevant.

Redwingfan9 · Nov 13, 2020

NBB said:
Pfft. Sure feeling Gods love and presence and glory can be felt a lot, no one can manufacture those things though, is God doing something to you and even if emotions get involved, they are not things of 'your emotions' they are real stuff that God does. They can be life changing, faith increasing things indeed, would a father not do things to their childs?? God does things to us.

Seek holiness not experiences.

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