How Can Abortion Be Biblically Defended?

[SPF]

We can not force women to carry pregnancies to term as if they are just tools for what is inside them: they aren't! They have lives of their own

I think it’s sad that you display such a discriminatory attitude towards humans simply because they’re so young. Because let’s be clear, that is exactly what you’re doing.

The human developmental period is roughly 25 years. You’re discriminating against our nation’s youngest and most innocent.

 

[JerseyChristianSuperstar]

Unless it can be shown that abortion is immoral.

For Christians, the abortion question ought to be an easy one. Our early Church fathers understood abortion to be wrong, it’s a shame that Christians lost this understanding over time.

As Christians, we recognize that all human beings are created in the image of God and possess inherent moral and value.

Thanks to the advancements in science, we now know that a new human being comes into existence at fertilization.

Putting those two simple truths together make a compelling case that the 98% of abortions which are committed for convenience reasons are immoral.

I've already stated multiple times that I believe that most abortion are sinful, immoral and should not be done, in the vast majority of cases, and that I would not personally ever pay for an abortion for a close female friend, girlfriend, or my future wife.

In any case, while it's true that the Early Church Fathers believed abortion to be wrong and sinful, they certainly did not take the modern hardline anti-abortion position that terminating a pregnancy is tantamount to murder in every stage of pregnancy, even in the earliest stages of the first trimester; they did not believe that because the fetus was not viable and hadn't gone through quickening (movements) in that stage.

Abortion is sinful, and most abortions are done for immoral reasons. Drinking a lot and premarital sex between adults are also sins, but no one wants to bring back Prohibition or make premarital sex between adults illegal so long as it's not prostitution or incest, because they realize that not every sin is worthy of a legal punishment.

 

[SPF]

Abortion is sinful, and most abortions are done for immoral reasons. Drinking a lot and premarital sex between adults are also sins, but no one wants to bring back Prohibition or make premarital sex between adults illegal so long as it's not prostitution or incest, because they realize that not every sin is worthy of a legal punishment.

And yet driving while drunk is illegal. Why? Because the law seeks to protect people. Why is it illegal to have sex with minors, because the law seeks to protect people. Why is there a speeding limit? You guessed it, to protect people.

Why should abortion for non-medical reasons be illegal? Because the law should protect its nation’s youngest and most innocent.

 

[cow451]

Satan quotes the Bible...

As does Donald Trump .... sorta...

If one is to look at anti-abortion beliefs as a strictly “Biblical” issue, one would have to oppose many Forms of birth control because they destroy embryos.

God terminates about one of every four pregnancies BTW.

My experience with the so-called Right to Life movement is that the same people generally oppose government support for childhood programs and services after passionately supporting government interfering with reproductive decisions by women.

Jesus said “Suffer the children...” in Matthew 19:14. He did not say “let the children suffer”.

 

[SPF]

My experience with people who make sweeping generalizations that amount to nothing more than ad hominem attacks in discussions do little to promote the conversation.

 

[cow451]

My experience with people who make sweeping generalizations that amount to nothing more than ad hominem attacks in discussions do little to promote the conversation.

Are you trying to promote conversation with your sweeping generalization?

 

[SPF]

Jesus said “Suffer the children...” in Matthew 19:14. He did not say “let the children suffer”.

Great pro-life verse. Probably not much worse suffering than killing them.

 

[cow451]

Great pro-life verse. Probably not much worse suffering than killing them.

God kills about 1 million unborn annually in America.

In a fallen world there are so many delimmas to be faced. How do we think a secular government can support any religious agenda without stripping it of is spiritual basis? By forcing women impregnated by rape and incest to give birth supports the rights of the rapist and incest perpetrator. Do we really want that?

 

[SPF]

God kills about 1 million unborn annually in America

And how does this statistic relate to the morality of abortion? Do you think that this statistic has a determining factor in the morality of abortion? If so, can you explain how?

How do we think a secular government can support any religious agenda without stripping it of is spiritual basis?

why would it matter? I’m fine with murder being illegal whether there is a spiritual basis to it or not.

By forcing women impregnated by rape and incest to give birth supports the rights of the rapist and incest perpetrator. Do we really want that?

And therefore you think a better alternative is to kill the unborn person?

 

[cow451]

And how does this statistic relate to the morality of abortion? Do you think that this statistic has a determining factor in the morality of abortion? If so, can you explain how?

Statistics are reflections. They have no intrinsic value. They can be useful tools in life.

why would it matter? I’m fine with murder being illegal whether there is a spiritual basis to it or not.

Ok

And therefore you think a better alternative is to kill the unborn person?

Lesser of two evils, perhaps. I’m not promoting forced breeding. Reality requires hard decisions. I don’t recall a Biblical basis for forced breeding and incest.

 

[SPF]

Lesser of two evils, perhaps. I’m not promoting forced breeding. Reality requires hard decisions. I don’t recall a Biblical basis for forced breeding and incest.

Can you clarify what you mean? Are you saying that killing an innocent person created in the image of God is the lesser evil?

 

[cow451]

Can you clarify what you mean? Are you saying that killing an innocent person created in the image of God is the lesser evil?

Is rape and incest your lesser evil? No lives destroyed there, right.

 

[SPF]

Is rape and incest your lesser evil? No lives destroyed there, right.

I don’t understand how your response answers what I asked. Unless it was your intent to dodge the question?

Rape is pretty much one of the worst and most horrifically heinous things a person can do.

But surely as a Christian you believe that all humans are created in the image of God and possess inherent moral worth and value, right?

There are two victims in a rape where a woman becomes pregnant. The mother and the unwanted child. Do you think killing the unborn child is an appropriate and morally sound response?

 

[Sabertooth]

If one is to look at anti-abortion beliefs as a strictly “Biblical” issue, one would have to oppose many Forms of birth control because they destroy embryos.

I can only think of 1.5 forms. IUDs destroy embryos by design. Hormonal contraception can do so as a side effect.

 

[cow451]

I can only think of 1.5 forms. IUDs destroy embryos by design. Hormonal contraception can do so as a side effect.

Contraception after Conception? | National Review
From the link:
“All methods of contraception can fail to prevent a recognized pregnancy. Statistics on how often a method permits a recognized pregnancy are published by the CDC. For example, using the CDC numbers, for every 100 women who use the Pill for one year, nine will have a recognized pregnancy.”

Recognized pregnancy=Embryo

 

[cow451]

I can only think of 1.5 forms. IUDs destroy embryos by design. Hormonal contraception can do so as a side effect.

The “Life begins at conception” logical position would be that “side effect” is killing babies.

 

[SPF]

The “Life begins at conception” logical position would be that “side effect” is killing babies.

Is there an alternative position that you can support other than “life begins at conception”?

And why is the side effect that babies are being killed?

 

[Sabertooth]

And why is the side effect that babies are being killed?

Contraception proper keeps the sperm & ovum from coming together in the first place. In that sense, a functioning condom is not abortifacient.

Hormonal contraception is chemically designed to do the same thing. Should it fail to do so, it can expel a fertilized zygote. That is why I said it was a possible side effect.

That is one of many reasons that we abandoned hormonal contraception.

 

[(° ͡ ͜ ͡ʖ ͡ °) (ᵔᴥᵔʋ)]

The “Life begins at conception” logical position would be that “side effect” is killing babies.

Remember, the OP specifically request that a Christian biblically defends abortion. Do you have any scriptural justification for abortion. I provided a few verses against it in the OP. Unless you can biblically support abortion, I can only conclude that pro-abortion is an unbiblical position that a Christian ought not have. The floor is yours.

 

[cow451]

Is there an alternative position that you can support other than “life begins at conception”?

And why is the side effect that babies are being killed?

I’m not supporting it, just pointing out the dilemma, of being consistent it.