How are Prophecies evidence?

[Wiliki]

As I said to another awhile back...You likely could find greater empires or other empires that would fit these prophecies...easily.

Exactly. This isn't exactly a hard prophecy to be fulfilled. If, for some reason, it couldn't be fulfilled by a literal reading a couple thousand of years later, it's easy to manipulate the passage and find empires that would fit it then. The vagueness that I mentioned earlier shows that really, it doesn't MEAN anything. Unless of course, you can prove that there is a direct reference to the empires...

 

[Lisa0315]

Hmm... ok then. I'm going into the second chapter, and I see no real evidence to back up the author's claims. Since obviously he is rather biased, I'd really love some sort of record that I can see, which backs up the Disciples being Martyrs. In addition, I was hoping, you know, for something during the time that the disciples lived, considering that really, I can't see this being much more than hearsay.

Scripture gives us a detailed account of the death of Stephen. If that is not enough for you, then, I am not sure what else to give to you.

Lisa

 

[Lisa0315]

Exactly. This isn't exactly a hard prophecy to be fulfilled. If, for some reason, it couldn't be fulfilled by a literal reading a couple thousand of years later, it's easy to manipulate the passage and find empires that would fit it then. The vagueness that I mentioned earlier shows that really, it doesn't MEAN anything. Unless of course, you can prove that there is a direct reference to the empires...

You left out the part in which I said that if you add Israel to the equation, it is a little harder to put in other kingdoms. Daniel, and all prophets spoke of the events that would occur to Israel.

Lisa

 

[prophecystudent]

Folks, I smell a troll here. The age given by the OP is 13.

I have never come across a 13 year old that communicates using words and sentence structure as this.

No matter what responses we provide, all the OP does is demand "proof".

We have cited a number of proofs, or sources for information but the OP refuses to do his own research to find the answers.

I suspect I will not waste more time on this thread. It is a waste of time to argue with someone who simply refuses to accept the information provided.

Fred

 

[ebia]

How is it that you would consider prophecies written by previous writers, and then fulfilled by future writers to be evidence of anything? I'll give you a quick little example as to explain why this doesn't show ANYTHING.

NT Writer: Hmm... so let's see here... I'll have Jesus been a male! OH, and a couple passages in the OT suggest that the Messiah will ride on a donkey, so I'd better put that in.

What would stop the authors of the NT from altering Jesus' life, if he existed, to fit the prophecies. It's not as if the OT and the NT were written in conjunction, after all.

Nothing. But then, they aren't meant to be used as 'proof' in that way. They are ways of talking about (for example) Jesus Messiahship. Not proof that the book in authentic.