How about old Christian

[Lintu]

Why did God send the angel of death down, the pharoah sinned, not the small children. therefore is God a murderer? Saying the pharoah is doens't make sense because the LORD sent the angel of death down.

The HOly wars in the bible and also the ones that stemmed from its teachings cannot show Gods love for all, and why ask his people to kill others when it is a sin?

I'm not getting answers. Just more contraditions. Teach me.

 

[JonathonD]

Why did God send the angel of death down, the pharoah sinned, not the small children. therefore is God a murderer? Saying the pharoah is doens't make sense because the LORD sent the angel of death down.

The HOly wars in the bible and also the ones that stemmed from its teachings cannot show Gods love for all, and why ask his people to kill others when it is a sin?

I'm not getting answers. Just more contraditions. Teach me.

One man sins, everyone gets punished. We need to learn the hard way how to not sin. Like when I was 10 my class somone whispered and we all had to copy out 1000 lines.

 

[Lintu]

Yes, because that's a loving God. Punishing someone for somebody elses sins. Hardly seems like a fair and just God to me.

 

[graysparrow]

This is not the place for 'old christians' as you presented yourself in the chat forum to ask

 

[JonathonD]

Point is. Do not sin or face the consiqences whatever it may be.

 

[Lintu]

Yes but the point is, God murdered? Did he not? Going against his own rules. God sinned and therefore is not perfect. And insofar the Bible must be incorrect.

 

[graysparrow]

God did not murder. The only incorrect thing is the literalist interpretation of it.

 

[Lintu]

SO how do you accept the words of the Bible? Interpret them differently to ensure it fits into your view of God? The Bible says not to change it, but by interpretting it to suit your needs you are therefore going against the word of God.

 

[graysparrow]

I accept the words of the Bible in accordance with the Apostolic Tradition and the Magisterium of the Church.

I do not interpret it to suit my needs. Rather I interpret them trying to find out what the authors meant.

 

[Lintu]

And yet the author is God. Why would he write something that you'd have to try and decipher like a code? To trick Christians into forming different groups? Sounds slighty devilish to me. TO interpret things you see them in a different light to other people when shouldn't you all see it through the HOly spirit you claim to be filled with? Hence why there shouldn't be different types of Christians. The Bible has some serious flaws if its having this affect.

 

[graysparrow]

The author is God, but God through human writers. The Bible did not fall from heaven.

 

[Lintu]

Yes so then you would expect it to have flaws and contradcitions if it was written by different people. no human creation can be perfect for we are not Gods. So to worship a God and place a whole religion around this book seems ludicrous. And yet its happened

 

[graysparrow]

The center of Christianity is not the Bible, but Jesus Christ resurrected who is the Head of the Church.

The Bible is one of the ways (together with the Magisterium and the Apostollic Tradition) through wich God reveals himself to mankind. Yet you must not confuse a mountain with the picture of a mountain or the description of a mountain.

 

[Lintu]

But its the only way you know of Jesus' resurrection. It plays the most vital role in how you worship him. Its the word of God, so you don't think the word of God is important? If it is indeed his word.

"you would expect it to have flaws and contradcitions if it was written by different people. no human creation can be perfect for we are not Gods. "

And yet this is ignored?

 

[_CJ_]

I am watching this go, just so you know.

 

[graysparrow]

But its the only way you know of Jesus' resurrection. It plays the most vital role in how you worship him. Its the word of God, so you don't think the word of God is important? If it is indeed his word.

"you would expect it to have flaws and contradcitions if it was written by different people. no human creation can be perfect for we are not Gods. "

And yet this is ignored?

Have you read the Dei Verbum? Hint: I provided a link for you.

 

[Lintu]

I did. And yet it still didn't answer it. YEs it was under the influence of the Holy Spirit and should be seen as thr word of God and read when you have the Holy Spirit in order to understand it. I had the holy spirit when these questions arose and it was still written by man an imperfect being

 

[graysparrow]

I think it would be better to close this thread or even delete it, as now my posts would not be understanable.

They are not meant to be an attack on any denomination, btw. I was replying somebody who was being not very nice.