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This video explains the Lutheran version of the video I shared in post #34

 
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My gripe is I think too many limit salvation to where they go after they die. And that's not only what Jesus taught. Jesus taught us a lot about how He wants us to live during our lifetime. What He wants for us during our lifetime. What He wants from us during our lifetime. That He wants to save us from sin and evil during this lifetime. To overcome the world and our own corrupt flesh. The grace of God is to save us from our wretchedness here and now and throughout our lifetime.
 
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I love how Paul was humble enough to write even when writing scripture "1 Corinthians 7:10 To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband.11 But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife.
12 To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord):"

So in light of that i say (i not the Lord) it is instantaneous in my experience. Yes the process may take time but there is an instant where you have prayed that you ask for forgiveness and you ask Jesus into your life, it is at that moment you have been given salvation. Be careful if you think you stand, work out your salvation with fear and trembling.
 
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Is salvation always instantaneous? Or is it sometimes a process?

I believe that salvation from sin and eternal death is instant. Sanctification is a life-long process and when we die, we will have full salvation - i.e. no more illness, sin, pain, disability, failure etc etc.

I was always "becoming a Christian" when I was a teenager. I would repent and give my life to God, discover some sin I hadn't known about or some part of my life that was un-surrendered, believed that I hadn't done it properly, or that he didn't have all of me the first time - and made another commitment/signed on another dotted line/went forward at another service. Even then, it took years for me to believe that God loved me.
I don't believe that I was saved every time, or a little bit more saved. I don't think I'm any more saved now than I was then - but I know God a whole lot better. And I'm still not perfect.
 
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Is salvation always instantaneous? Or is it sometimes a process?
Salvation is both depending on what part of your being God is working with.

I was saved.
I am being saved.
I will be saved.

All three are entirely biblical.

Regeneration of the human spirit is instaneous - saved.
Transformation of the soul is an ongoing life-long matter - being saved.
Transfiguration of the body is in the twinkling of an eye - will be saved.

The process is God working rom the inside out to sanctify WHOLLY our spirit and soul and body, the three parts of out being.

"And the God of peace Himself sanctify you wholly, and may your spirit and soul and body be preserved complete, without blame, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Faithful is He who calls you, who also will do it." (1 Thess. 5:23,24)


Would anyone like to enjoy a song version of this passage verse 23?

 
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