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i am a christian struggling with sin. i need an honest answer. why shouldn't i just kill myself? isn't that preferable to living in sins you can't defeat? i'd rather die and go to heaven than sin against my lord repeatedly day after day. i could lose my chance to repent if i stay alive. aren't i doing the right thing by killing myself, thereby preventing myself from sinning again and losing my chance to enter heaven? what's the point in staying here if all i do is sin every day? what use am i to god here?
 

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i am a christian struggling with sin. i need an honest answer. why shouldn't i just kill myself? isn't that preferable to living in sins you can't defeat? i'd rather die and go to heaven than sin against my lord repeatedly day after day. i could lose my chance to repent if i stay alive. aren't i doing the right thing by killing myself, thereby preventing myself from sinning again and losing my chance to enter heaven? what's the point in staying here if all i do is sin every day? what use am i to god here?
Well, you shouldn't kill yourself. That's just good advice. But if you did, you'd be on the hook for "self murder". Self murder is a sin from which there is no repentance. In other words, if you did that you're goose would be cooked.

Now, usually someone who says they are struggling with sin normally means they are struggling with minor sexual immorality. If that's the case you should speak with a priest rather than doing something drastic.
 
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i am a christian struggling with sin. i need an honest answer. why shouldn't i just kill myself? isn't that preferable to living in sins you can't defeat? i'd rather die and go to heaven than sin against my lord repeatedly day after day. i could lose my chance to repent if i stay alive. aren't i doing the right thing by killing myself, thereby preventing myself from sinning again and losing my chance to enter heaven? what's the point in staying here if all i do is sin every day? what use am i to god here?
Because eventually you'll look back and realize that you're still practically a child right now. One of they ways I got past repetitive sin was simply growing out of it. Your use to God doesn't end until you die of old age and may not really begin until you're a lot older. When Paul was tormented by some unnamed thing, which might have been repetitive sin he couldn't get over, God told him “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness”.

Therefore, in order to keep me from becoming conceited, I was given a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me. 8 Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me. 9 But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may rest on me. 10 That is why, for Christ’s sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong. 2 Corinthians 12:7-10
 
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i need an honest answer. why shouldn't i just kill myself?
If you have been Born Again, you are not yours to kill; you do not have the right to do so!
You belong to Someone else!

"For you were bought at a price;
therefore glorify God in your body​
and in your spirit,​
which are God’s." 1 Cor. 6:20 NKJV
 
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i am a christian struggling with sin. i need an honest answer. why shouldn't i just kill myself? isn't that preferable to living in sins you can't defeat? i'd rather die and go to heaven than sin against my lord repeatedly day after day. i could lose my chance to repent if i stay alive.
Hello Carter, I'm very sorry to hear about your struggles with sin, but committing suicide isn't the answer (quite frankly, if you are worried about losing your chance to repent, it seems to me that suicide is the very last thing that you'd want to do :preach:).

Praying for you!

The thing is, the Lord knows that sin cannot be fully defeated by us in this life, so He gave us confession and repentance as a means of dealing with it and reestablishing full fellowship with Him in the here and now. He also promises to both forgive us of all of the sins that we commit, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness as well, whenever we confess our sins to Him .. e.g. 1 John 1:9 :amen:

So, stay in God's word and pray for His help with your struggle against sin. He is truly on our side in this fight as He always provides a way of escape from the temptations that we face .. e.g. 1 Corinthians 10:13.

As for waging war against sin where the rubber meets the road (so to speak), follow the command that you fine here (2 Corinthians 10:5) and REFUSE to accept your sinful thoughts by taking them "captive" as soon as you perceive them entering your mind, so that the temptations that you face every day are never allowed the chance to turn into sins instead. IOW, just say "NO" to drugs to your sinful thoughts ;) (out loud, if that helps .. it did for me, especially when I used to face waves of those unwanted, sinful thoughts that seemed like they would never stop :mad:).

Lastly (concerning your 'rubber meeting the road' battle with sin), if what you are seeing is part of what is causing you to sin, learn to look away from (instead of at) the problem, whatever it may be, and whenever it is possible to do so. I'll let it go at that, but if this is an area that you are struggling with, let me know if you'd like to discuss it further (as I have a number of other suggestions that can help).

You may also want to begin to practice the presence or awareness of God in your life, because the more of Him that you have in your life, the less you are going to want to sin, or be able to sin :oldthumbsup: The way to do so is summed up pretty nicely for us in the following short passage (some of this may seem all but impossible to you at first, but no worries, just take it slow, perhaps by beginning to look for things throughout your day, even the smallest or simplest of things, to rejoice in and to thank Him for.

1 Thessalonians 5
16 Rejoice always;
17 pray without ceasing;
18 in everything give thanks; for this is God’s will for you in Christ Jesus.

This all means that your Creator, the King of the Universe Himself, wants you to make Him part of your life, the BIGGEST part, actually :) What could possibly be as COOL/WONDERFUL/WONDROUS as that :clap:

Remember too that God is our loving, heavenly Abba/Father, and He sees us and deals with us, first and foremost, as His children. This means that He is far less interested in getting perfection from us than He is in seeing the relationship that we have with Him grow (I believe that you will find that the more you come to know Him and include Him your life, the less you will tend towards sin :oldthumbsup::oldthumbsup:).

It helps me to think of Him as a parent (the perfect parent, in fact). And since we are part of His family now, our value to Him is found not so much in what we do or fail to do for Him, but in who we are to Him, His children by adoption. IOW, He sees us/values us as "human beings", NOT as "human doings", just like our earthly parents do (or are at least supposed to do, anyway ;)).

There's more that I'd like to talk with you about, but I need to go right now. Talk to you soon (Dv) :)

I'll leave you with this passage. It's one of my favorite little passages about sin, as it not only tells us what we need to do to overcome the sin in our lives (v9), it also tells us one of the best ways to go about doing so too (v11) .. the way that was certainly the key/principal way that worked for me!

Psalm 119
9 How can a young man keep His way pure? By keeping it according to Thy word.
11 Thy word I have treasured (stored/hidden) in my heart, that I may not sin against Thee.

Questions? Please don't hesitate to ask them!

God bless you!!

--David
p.s. - if may behoove you to consider carefully what Spurgeon has to say in the quote of his below :)

Spurgeon - Hope Lives - Trust - He is holy_post.jpg


He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf,
so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.
2 Corinthians 5:21
 
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i am a christian struggling with sin. i need an honest answer. why shouldn't i just kill myself? isn't that preferable to living in sins you can't defeat? i'd rather die and go to heaven than sin against my lord repeatedly day after day. i could lose my chance to repent if i stay alive. aren't i doing the right thing by killing myself, thereby preventing myself from sinning again and losing my chance to enter heaven? what's the point in staying here if all i do is sin every day? what use am i to god here?
Welcome to CF.

Do you love your sin more than Jesus Christ of Nazareth? Have you received His Holy Spirit yet? His Holy Spirit is our " Helper". He makes His Home in us through His Holy Spirit. What is impossible for men us NOT impossible for God. So at this time ask Him to fill you because if you indeed Love Him more than sin, He will not abandon you. I'll pray for you. Be blessed.
 
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Fight those thoughts take them captive as in 2Cor 10:3-5. Believe what the Bible says. You are in a tough time and frustrated by yourself. Stay away from the big sins and repent daily of the others. Of course not kill there’s hope in the lord not condemnation. The hope of redemption, the hope of glory, the hope in forgiveness. The hope in being loved. Be encouraged not despair. You will never be perfect or sin free, only Jesus was. Don’t be so hard on yourself. Be convicted if you sin not self condemnation and go to God with it.
 
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i am a christian struggling with sin. i need an honest answer. why shouldn't i just kill myself? isn't that preferable to living in sins you can't defeat? i'd rather die and go to heaven than sin against my lord repeatedly day after day. i could lose my chance to repent if i stay alive. aren't i doing the right thing by killing myself, thereby preventing myself from sinning again and losing my chance to enter heaven? what's the point in staying here if all i do is sin every day? what use am i to god here?
It is impossible to judge yourself. I Cor 4:3-5 "Moreover it is required in stewards, that a man be found faithful.
But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self.
For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord. Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God."

I think you are too hard on yourself, that inside there are some qualities of God that break through at times. Small things can mean a lot to others. Try and find some others where you can really benefit them more, like giving money to the poorest of the poor, helping an elderly person do something they no longer can do, giving a word of encouragement to someone else even though you don't feel like it.

I would suggest too, at creating some good habits like reading the word and praying, especially when things seem the darkest and you feel terrible. Find some help from others, both medical and spiritual people. You are far closer to victory than you imagine but leave the burden with God. Ask him to create the change. David said "Create in me a clean heart." A book I would recommend is Sit, Walk and Stand by Watchman Nee, Only 64 pages and can be found free here. Sit, walk, stand : Nee, Watchman : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
There has to be all kinds of teaching that you have never been exposed too, keys that are available that you have yet to see, changes that are underway that seemingly have no fruit. The seed is planted, weeds may blossom first, but allow God to break up the fallow ground and keep planting the word in you and continue to have faith for a harvest. God bless.
 
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What is sin? When you answer that question you are telling yourself what is morally wrong in your heart. If you continue to go against your moral beliefs, you can call yourself a sinner, but we all sin. We live in sin, are born to sin, and we will die in sin. What we need to do is find love in our sin. You can't stop sinning and love is the answer. As a Christian, we believe in Jesus who sacrificed his life forgiving our sins, but the main reason is God loves us so much. You don't stop living because you can't stop sinning. You live your life knowing you are so loved because God is present and wants you to enjoy his creation made all for you. Fight sin with passion to please God. We cannot be Jesus, but we can have a moral compass and live with a passion to find love in this creation. We are not perfect and we will continue to sin, because we live with each other and we are all sinners. Live with love, live to love, live for love. Seek love and you will find God in your life. If God exist, and I say he does, God will cover that darkness you have and light you up in bits and pieces of light, if you just set your moral compass towards the good of everything that appears dark. If you have to fight your way out of hell to reach heaven, use God as your armor, your protection, your spokesperson. Let God be your life and your death, but love is God's way, no darkness, no devil. It's you and God and your cross. Eat pleasantly, drink friendly, be kind, let God do the rest. God wants you to know love and be happy and the world wants to take it away but God with Jesus has overcome the world and so can you. TGGIL
 
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As a Christian, you shouldn't kill yourself, because you do not own yourself, God has purchased you with the blood of Christ.
You shouldn't kill yourself because God loves you beyond reason
God stitched you up in your mother's womb
God has a plan for you, here on Earth now
Jesus already died for your sins, why do you worry about your future sins?
God created you in His image... who could want to kill anything created in His image?
I love you, and I don't even know you.
 
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As a Christian, you shouldn't kill yourself, because you do not own yourself, God has purchased you with the blood of Christ.
You shouldn't kill yourself because God loves you beyond reason
God stitched you up in your mother's womb
God has a plan for you, here on Earth now
Jesus already died for your sins, why do you worry about your future sins?
God created you in His image... who could want to kill anything created in His image?
I love you, and I don't even know you.

what do you do if there’s no help, your a Christian and there no hope for healing or anything just pain, physical pain.
Day after day the same debilitating pain..You dont kill yourself but what do you do?
 
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I'm sorry for your suffering, but as a Christian we should never think or say there is no hope for healing.... God is a miracle worker and the gifts of healing are for today, there is always hope. If you are part of a church where the spiritual gifts are not being manifested, I would consider a new church. Many churches actively teach against healing, but I have seen miracle healing with my own eyes and experienced it in my body with back pain that disappeared instantly. Never give up your faith... find brethren near you that practice the spiritual gifts and seek their anointing.
 
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i am a christian struggling with sin. i need an honest answer. why shouldn't i just kill myself?
Because you'll miss out on the day waiting for you with a good thing.
 
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i am a christian struggling with sin. i need an honest answer. why shouldn't i just kill myself? isn't that preferable to living in sins you can't defeat? i'd rather die and go to heaven than sin against my lord repeatedly day after day. i could lose my chance to repent if i stay alive. aren't i doing the right thing by killing myself, thereby preventing myself from sinning again and losing my chance to enter heaven? what's the point in staying here if all i do is sin every day? what use am i to god here?
I believe the most honest answer you would get is from God's word.
If one is a Christian
  • and they are mentally ill, or struggling with a mental disorder, it would be best for that one to seek medical help. Matthew 9:12
  • and one is not mentally ill in any way, but that one wants to kill themselves,
  • that one is spiritually sick, and needs to seek spiritual help. Mark 2:17; James 5:14, 15
  • to get to heaven rather than die sinning, that one has been misled, and is fooling themselves, because those who go to heaven, (1) are born from God, and cannot practice sin 1 John 3:9, 10; (2) stick faithfully to Jesus through the severest of trials Revelation 14:4; (3) remain faithful to the end Revelation 2:10, and conquer the world 1 John 5:4; Revelation 21:7, 8.
  • and one does not think they are any use to God, that one is not familiar with the teachings of Jesus Christ, and that one need someone to teach them the elementary truths of God’s word all over again, they being still an infant, and not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness. Hebrews 5:12-13
 
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