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Justaman0000

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so where are all these ex-gays then?

No one can seem to find them

heres a link to one, thats a good start seeing I googled it and found it instantly. I would give you a hundred more but seriously i don't have the time for that but im sure you will if you persue looking for them. It's a good testimony please read it.
Testimony Homosexual Deliverance
 
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But when you say the same thing about our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters it somehow does make it so. Why is that?




Where... and it is acceptable behavior that is not dealt with by banishing or killing... and no, I do not think gays should be killed or banished...
You made this assertion before…and were asked to back it up. So far you haven’t






There is nothing to support either translation. And historically these words were nto translated this way.

So clearly, the Bible says its wrong.
Racists happily quote the bible…and sadly the verses they use don’t have the transnational problems your have…so therefore racism must be acceptable…right?



I treat everyone the same way, the way I would like to be treated, thus, I do not mistreat gays. I do not agree with their life style, I do not accept it as being normal, but I never mistreat anyone.
Do you like having your life reduced to a “lifestyle”
Do you like being called abnormal?
 
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Because they are a minority. A minority that is discriminated against.

why pretend they are not a minority?
 
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Oh yeah Matt Manning. He also claims that he was HIV positive but was “cured” through prayer….however he wont actually produce records to show he was ever diagnosed HIV positive.
 
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Ok so you know its wrong, and so does everyone else that isn't brainwashed by what they take out of context to satisfy their own hatred.

So it’s wrong when the target is non-whites…but why isn’t it wrong when the target is gays and lesbians?

believing it is immoral doesn't make it immoral. Its immoral because God the almighty finds it detestable in his own eyes.
This is exactly what racists say.



Did you even read my question?
 
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If you want to talk racism Bigbadwlf then please give us some example of the verses used in the racists defence. and heres another good site with some other testimonies to some "ex-gays" as you say. Hope 4 Homosexuals Happy reading.
 
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You just said “none of that is true”

So why the backpeddling?
 
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And racists happily use the “wisdom of God” as well… but for some reason you don’t seem to like it when they do what you are doing. Why is that?
 
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Why do you care what I, or anyone else thinks... For I clearly said that while I do not like the way you live your life, if you have FAITH in JESUS, your sins are forgiven, and your salvation secured. For NO ONE IS SINLESS! The one who was, is your salvation.

Do you have FAITH?
 
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If you want to talk racism Bigbadwlf then please give us some example of the verses used in the racists defence. and heres another good site with some other testimonies to some "ex-gays" as you say. Hope 4 Homosexuals Happy reading.
Its really sad that something called “hope 4 homosexuals” relies on lies and the promotion of hatred

Just some of the lies presented:
There is no evidence that sexual orientation is inborn (there is quite a bit of evidence. There is however no evidence that sexual orientation can change)
Homosexuals are not a minority group (I guess pretending gays and lesbians aren’t a minority makes bigotry OK)
Homosexuals have shorter life expectancies (one of the more famous … infamous? Lies of the religious right)
There is “overwhelming evidence” that homosexuality stems form “traumatic childhood experiences”(…there is no such evidence)

Of course groups like this wouldn’t have much business if they didn’t lie

But it leads me to question why should I accept any of the vague testimonies …you notice no one ever says ‘I was homosexual and now I am heterosexual…its all spin and fluff and meaningless phrases… there when the site itself is filled with blatant lies.
 
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If you want to talk racism Bigbadwlf then please give us some example of the verses used in the racists defence. and heres another good site with some other testimonies to some "ex-gays" as you say. Hope 4 Homosexuals Happy reading.

That homosexuals are being told that they are REQUIRED by God/Jesus to change from being who they are is quite chilling. Inflicting the notion on others that a change of sexual orientation is the ONLY WAY to 'make it' with God is a HUMAN concept ...CERTAINLY NOT A 'GOD' CONCEPT!!

Moreover, we constantly hear from Christians that 'being gay' is something that one chooses. And yet, they also claim from the other side of their mouths that (Christian) THERAPY is required in order to change one's (unchosen) homosexual orientation. Which is it? Why is reparative (?) therapy required to change one's choice?

Thinking out loud: Should not reparative therapy be available/administered to homophobes and bigots (THEY, after all, have 'the problem') more so than a homosexual who is quite contented (if allowed to live unhassled by homophobes and bigots) with being who he/she is?

Hmmm . . .end of thinking out loud.
 
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Hopefully in the honor of God, in which I would not disagree with...

Do you have FAITH?

Do you have FAITH?

What does that mean in the case of one's belief or not in the veracity of the scriptures? I mean really ...? Is having faith that the Bible writers are beyond reproach in regard to their reporting for God the determining factor as to who is and who is not 'saved'?
 
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the fact that they have sex with the same sex.

Not all homosexuals and bisexuals are sexually active.

Not all sexually active bisexuals have sex with the same sex.

David.
 
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