Homosexuallity is the same as polygamy

[Full_Moon]

Yes, great point Enemyparty...David X and a few others are hijacking by making this about hurt and killing, which has nothing to do with the thread.

btw, homosexual acts ARE killing and hurting. The nature is the same as any other sin.

Someone who fails to see the sinfulness of sexually immoral activities fails to see what sexual morality is. They will not even know what a perversion is and so they are in danger of becoming sexual perverts.

 

[davedjy]

btw, homosexual acts ARE killing and hurting. The nature is the same as any other sin.

Someone who fails to see the sinfulness of sexually immoral activities fails to see what sexual morality is. They will not even know what a perversion is and so they are in danger of becoming sexual perverts.

I see your ANTI-GAY doctrine HURTING and KILLING...people are committing suicide that leave these ex-gay ministry programs. They are going against the ethics of EVERY SINGLE credible mental health foundation that says that gays are happy when they lead lives as homosexuals.

YOUR people are ACTUALLY killing and destroying!

 

[Tinkerbell33]

Not that homosexuality kills or hurts anyone

yeah that is what i mean, homosexuality doesnt hurt or kill

 

[davedjy]

Yes, Becksy had it correct!

which is why it is so absurd which ever person keeps using that comparison! Is that all you can come up with, is comparing this to murder? oh sheesh.

Lies are murder then, too (assuming this was a sin).

 

[Itani]

Show me where Jesus mentioned the word Homosexual and show me in the original hebrew and greek text the talk of homosexuals

Jesus is God. Read up on the old testament. Jesus didn't have to tell the Jews about laws they already followed. he affirmed the law on things that mattered, such as loving your neighbour as yourself.

Jesus didn't tell others to not worship other God's because it was already known not to do it. He said that the only way to God is through the son of Man.

Same goes for Homosex. It was already stated in the Law. He didn't have to tell others not to do that stuff because they already knew it was wrong. Read up on old testament for more details on the matter.

 

[davedjy]

Jesus is God. Read up on the old testament. Jesus didn't have to tell the Jews about laws they already followed. he affirmed the law on things that mattered, such as loving your neighbour as yourself.

Jesus didn't tell others to not worship other God's because it was already known not to do it. He said that the only way to God is through the son of Man.

Same goes for Homosex. It was already stated in the Law. He didn't have to tell others not to do that stuff because they already knew it was wrong. Read up on old testament for more details on the matter.

No, it was stated because it was a pagan practice, READ the verses, you are rehashing old stuff that has been said, over and over, for months!

 

[Itani]

The stuff I say is truth, which you are not accepting.

 

[davedjy]

The stuff I say is truth, which you are not accepting.

I believe the stuff I am saying 100% is the truth, which you aren't accepting.

That isn't a valid debate point, now, is it?

 

[Itani]

The bible clearly states homosexuality is wrong, which contradicts what you think. So according to you, I and other Christians have been blindly following a bible that has lost its meaning and isn't translated right.

Boohoo. Just because the bible persecutes against homosexuality doesn't mean you have to change it the way you guys want to hear it. The bible clearly states homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of God.

 

[davedjy]

Itani's posts might as well be copy/paste, same thing in every thread, without any knowledge of the Hebrew and Greek...

 

[Itani]

Hey. I point out what scriptures say. What is there to debate on what the meaning of: "homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of God"?

 

[Tinkerbell33]

Jesus said that loving thy neighbour as yousrelf and loving God fulfills the law....i believe homosexuals can do this. And I dont think that hating homosexuals if following Jesus. Even if it wrond which I dont think it is, we are not supposed to show hate towards homosexuals.

I looked up your profile Itani and you work in a casino right? well you are also picking and choosing parts of the bible to your life....gambling is a sin...because it encourages people to waste their money and it is about greed.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Not to mention that casinos are well known operating grounds for prostitutes thieves and other low lives... really, I don't think anything the average homosexual can begin to compare sin-wise with HALF the stuff that goes on in a casino

 

[davedjy]

Jesus said that loving thy neighbour as yousrelf and loving God fulfills the law....i believe homosexuals can do this. And I dont think that hating homosexuals if following Jesus. Even if it wrond which I dont think it is, we are not supposed to show hate towards homosexuals.

I looked up your profile Itani and you work in a casino right? well you are also picking and choosing parts of the bible to your life....gambling is a sin...because it encourages people to waste their money and it is about greed.

ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Becksy, glad to have you in this forum, Reps for you!

 

[Full_Moon]

Hey. I point out what scriptures say. What is there to debate on what the meaning of: "homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of God"?

Quoting the bible is hate-propaganda I guess. It is O.K. to hate the bible and say it is wrong whenever we disagree. But it is not O.K. to say the bible is correct when it says that someone is doing something wrong.

Don't you know that it is not nice to show someone the errors of their ways? They might change and live a better life!

What is the response to you pointing out that scripture clearly says homosexual acts are sexually immoral? They turn around and call you a sinner because you work at a casino. Not that it addresses your argument but it turns the focus on what a sinner they think you are.

While you are called a hater for saying homosexual acts are wrong, they are heros for telling you that gambling is wrong. Hypocrites?

STOP ALL THE HATING!!!! What a crime it is to tell someone if you disagree morally with their life-style! The only solution I see is to ban the bible.

I was called a destroying murderer for standing up for the truth. The 'new' Jesus is here and says: "Do not condemn the ways of this world, only condemn the ways of God which divide truth from false" and again the 'new' Jesus says "the ways of the beast are good but the ways of the old Christ are bad"

It will likely soon be a crime to speak against sexual immorality. It will be a hate-crime against homosexuals.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Don't you know that it is not nice to show someone the errors of their ways? They might change and live a better life!

Feel free to show us how homosexuality is an "error" and that our lives would be better without it?

Can you do it without the Leviticus or Romans?

 

[Tinkerbell33]

im do not hate itani, just showing that he is being a hypocrite, but im sorry if i have caused any offence, im just saying what i believe, you can believe what you believe and you can believe.

I do apply the bible to my life, the bible is not about hating it is about love.

I wasnt trying ot turn the argument around ui was just trying to show you my reasoning. I do not ignore what the bible says either, i do not say that it is wrong when i disagree with it either, i do not ignore my sin, yes i sin sometimes and nobody is perfect thats why Jesus died for our sins.

I do think that there is danger when peoplle change what they think the bible says to suit the world. But i do not believe that the bible condemns homosexuality, biut it does condemn things like abortion. sorry is i am not making sense, im rushing because i have to do an essay.

Why do people say that the early church fathers had it right? how do you know? a while ago the Church of England actually owned slaves.

 

[Tinkerbell33]

 

[Tinkerbell33]

gambling is wrong - because it destroys peoples lives, homosexuality doesnt destroy lives.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

STOP ALL THE HATING!!!! What a crime it is to tell someone if you disagree morally with their life-style! The only solution I see is to ban the bible.

But you HAVN'T been able to tell us you disagree with homosexuality morally... you say you disapprove of homosexuality because of the Bible... but the Bible does NOT=morality without appropriate interpretation...

now, if you can give us a secular moral argument against homosexuality, I'm all ears...